Driving laws you may not know you're breaking

[svo supporter]

You can be done for drink driving, if your tanked, near a car,(ie leaning or sleeping near it) with the car keys in your possession.

[prydey]

just going back to the 'keep left unless overtaking' rule,

that has actually changed in the last few years. it did used to be 80, hence why many 80 zones have signage as well saying keep left etc etc. the wording in the law book used to say 'roads that were 80 or above'.

[Tobey]

Originally Posted by svo supporter

You can be done for drink driving, if your tanked, near a car,(ie leaning or sleeping near it) with the car keys in your possession.

Not in NSW...

[Fantome]

NSW used to , and maybe still have, two offences relating to booze and cars. DUI, for when you were caught actually driving. PCA, Occupy driver's seat whilst having in excess of the Prescribed Content of Alcohol in your blood.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Fantome

NSW used to , and maybe still have, two offences relating to booze and cars. DUI, for when you were caught actually driving. PCA, Occupy driver's seat whilst having in excess of the Prescribed Content of Alcohol in your blood.

I think those two offenses were widened to DUI and being in charge of a motor vehicle, even having the keys
in your pocket is technically an offense as is being intoxicated in passenger seat with a learner driving.

Back in the 1930s
My grandfather and his mates used to get stewed to the eyeballs at Thane pub and then
fall into the back of the wagon and let the horses take them home, how would you go today?

[Fantome]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Back in the 1930s
My grandfather and his mates used to get stewed to the eyeballs at Thane pub and then
fall into the back of the wagon and let the horses take them home, how would you go today?

When stopped by coppers, sit up, look surprised, shout "where's whats his name, he was our designated wagonmaster, he must have fallen off!" When cops run off to rescue "whats his name", run away.

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by prydey

just going back to the 'keep left unless overtaking' rule,

that has actually changed in the last few years. it did used to be 80, hence why many 80 zones have signage as well saying keep left etc etc. the wording in the law book used to say 'roads that were 80 or above'.

should be changed to 'all roads'

[flooded one]

the people who run red flashing lights at level crossing!!! I see this about 90% of times i come across a level crossing. I have even seen one nut in a EB falcon one day drive around boom gates!!! a bit too game for my liking!!! I am sure one day i am going too see a some one killed by a car being crushed by a train. I reckon the police should sneak a few camreas on the level crossing here. i think they would make alot of revenue from these clowns that dice with death. today was a good example. lights had been flashing at the level crossing here on bridge street (60 zone) for more the 3seconds and some nut in rodeo goes flying through before the boom gates come down!! had plenty of time too stop had no load and wasnt towing a trailer. impatient much???

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

should be changed to 'all roads'

You can't do that without considering traffic volumes and right turns.

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by wildrider

the people who run red flashing lights at level crossing!!! I see this about 90% of times i come across a level crossing. I have even seen one nut in a EB falcon one day drive around boom gates!!! a bit too game for my liking!!! I am sure one day i am going too see a some one killed by a car being crushed by a train. I reckon the police should sneak a few camreas on the level crossing here. i think they would make alot of revenue from these clowns that dice with death. today was a good example. lights had been flashing at the level crossing here on bridge street (60 zone) for more the 3seconds and some nut in rodeo goes flying through before the boom gates come down!! had plenty of time too stop had no load and wasnt towing a trailer. impatient much???

Your theory is excellent, but how is it going to stop the idiots? They might dice with it and misjudge the train. The gov't won't get any money out of them.

IMA, they do have these fitted to some railway crosings in S.A. This occurred after a fairly big pile up involving a train and a dozen or so cars 2 or 3 years ago.

[graham7773]

re livestock on roads. A few years ago, I was driving some distance north of Brisbane. There were NO FENCES AT ALL I am wondering how hard the brakes would be jumped on at the sight of an 8 foot (almost 3 meters) tall BRAHMAN BULL wandering across the road. or a herd of them. The bull would have his legs knocked out from under him, land on your bonnet, smash your windscreen, crush your turret and cave your boot in then, being totally ****ed, get up and charge you.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

should be changed to 'all roads'

Unfortunately that will lead to chaos on inner suburban feeders particularly those of 3 or 4 lanes (in each direction) with many exits as people will be all over the road constantly changing lanes and cutting off others in last second dashes across maybe 5 lanes to get the the right most of the right turning lane from the left most of the through lanes.

If you are going to be turning right 4 exits ahead it is FAR safer to be in the right lane than to cut across at the last second.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by 66GT

Ok so I understand you can get booked for exceeding the posted speed limit. However if your in reverse, how can you safely check your speed is under the limit - especially the 21km when entering a round about?

You will get booked for 'reverse further than necessary'.

Originally Posted by el_wagon

http://www.qt.com.au/story/2012/04/2...g-ban-ipswich/ I have also heard of being done for drink driving in a wheelchair and for drink driving for simply sitting in the drivers seat without even attempting to drive the vehicle.

Should not occupy drivers seat while drunk, especially with key in the ignition, but police would still have to prove attempt to put vehicle into motion if you contest it at court.

Originally Posted by svo supporter

You can be done for drink driving, if your tanked, near a car,(ie leaning or sleeping near it) with the car keys in your possession.

No you can't.

Originally Posted by Fantome

NSW used to , and maybe still have, two offences relating to booze and cars. DUI, for when you were caught actually driving. PCA, Occupy driver's seat whilst having in excess of the Prescribed Content of Alcohol in your blood.

Also wrong, DUI and PCA are two different offenses and they have nothing to do with if you were driving or not.

PCA is tested using an alcoliser to obtain a blood alcohol reading at a road side RBT. Only the driver of a motor vehicle can be breath tested using an alcoliser and subsequently charged with PCA (the most common drink driving charge) but the driver of any vehicle can be done for DIY.

DUI is based on observations only no actual breath test is conducted for what ever reason, some reasons include (but not limited to), you are not in a motor vehicle (only drivers of motor vehicles can be breath tested), you are on a horse, you are riding a push bike, you are in a vehicle that is not a motor vehicle, it is outside the two hour time frame required for PCA, you are on drugs just to mention a few.

DUI is also used for people driving while under the influence of both legal and illegal drugs which impair control of a vehicle. This can be ascertained though observations made by police, admissions made by the driver, and through a blood test (police will take you to hospital and have a blood test done if they believe you are under the influence of something other than alcohol.)

[Ducati888]

It's one thing to have laws or rules. Its another to enforce them. Just because we have keep left unless overtaking rules doesn't mean people follow them, or that police will enforce them. I live in Melbourne, and I'm pretty sure one of the road rules is to indicate to change lanes. That one seems to have become a recommendation to most people not a rule.

There's only a couple of road rules now, DUI and speeding. One is dealt with by booze buses and the other by private contractors. Nothing else matters because they are not enforced, nor are they very lucrative. Where are the traffic cops? I never see them.

[prydey]

sad but true. its been a while since i've heard of anyone getting done for something other than speeding.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Ducati888

There's only a couple of road rules now, DUI and speeding. One is dealt with by booze buses and the other by private contractors. Nothing else matters because they are not enforced, nor are they very lucrative. Where are the traffic cops? I never see them.

I think you need to look into road rules a lot more if you think there is only a couple

I am guessing you mean PCA is dealt with by booze busses as DUI is generally used for drug related and non motor vehicle related offenses as explained earlier.

Traffic cops are now caller highway patrol plenty out there, but obviously not enough.

[prydey]

another obscure law is, i think it is also illegal to change lanes through an intersection. you have to have the move completed prior to entry or make the move after exit, not during.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by wildrider

the people who run red flashing lights at level crossing!!! I see this about 90% of times i come across a level crossing. I have even seen one nut in a EB falcon one day drive around boom gates!!! a bit too game for my liking!!! I am sure one day i am going too see a some one killed by a car being crushed by a train. I reckon the police should sneak a few camreas on the level crossing here. i think they would make alot of revenue from these clowns that dice with death. today was a good example. lights had been flashing at the level crossing here on bridge street (60 zone) for more the 3seconds and some nut in rodeo goes flying through before the boom gates come down!! had plenty of time too stop had no load and wasnt towing a trailer. impatient much???

It's always in the city as well. Most the time the gates are down for less then a minute to let a short passenger train past. If you are unlucky you might get stopped for a minute or 2
These city drivers should go to the countryside. I have seen gates be down for 10-15 minutes at a time.
These inpatient drivers will go crazy.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

To be honest I think there is nothing obscure about the laws listed by the op and I was well aware of all of them.

Here are some I am also aware of but are probably a bit more obscure.

It is an offense to not secure (lock) your motor vehicle.

It is an offense to park your car with the windows down.

It is an offense to have any part of you body out of the vehicle while driving.

It is an offense to not park correctly between the lines in a car park.

It is an offense to produce more noise than necessary, ie rev your engine more than needed.

It is an offense to reverse your vehicle further than absolutely necessary.

It is an offense to ride you push bike 'furiously'

It is an offense to not have a bell fitted to a push bike.

It is an offense for an adult to ride a push bike on the footpath.

These are all true and current laws in NSW that police can issue tickets for. If you give me time I can probably think of more.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Here are some I am also aware of but are probably a bit more obscure.

It is an offense to not secure (lock) your motor vehicle.

It is an offense to park your car with the windows down.

got links to prove these 2?

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Try your local traffic laws or the P23D handbook that lists all fines police can hand out, could not be bothered finding it at the moment, have other stuff to do, do some research yourself and you might just learn something.

too many people do this when it comes to traffic rules and then complain when they get pinged. It is the drivers responsibility to be aware of all traffic laws (even though I doubt anyone is, as there are just too many).

[Mechan1k]

It is definitely an offense to leave your car unlocked and move away from it .... I think the distance is about 10 metres from the perimeter of your vehicle.

The leaving windows down comes under the same thing ... as the vehicle is not secure.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Try your local traffic laws or the P23D handbook that lists all fines police can hand out, could not be bothered finding it at the moment, have other stuff to do, do some research yourself and you might just learn something.

no need for the attitude champ.

[flooded one]

arent taxi drivers still required too carry around a bale of hay in the boot for the horses?? i wonder how many cabbies would obey that law??

[Honro]

In the ACT - It is now an offence to smoke in a car that has an occupant under the age of 18.

[galaxy xr8]

It is an offense to leave your vehicle unlocked while un-attended.

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by Honro

In the ACT - It is now an offence to smoke in a car that has an occupant under the age of 18.

Same here in Vic.

[flooded one]

think it is in queensland as well

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by prydey

no need for the attitude champ.

Where is the attitude??? Did I miss something

Originally Posted by Honro

In the ACT - It is now an offence to smoke in a car that has an occupant under the age of 18.

It also is in NSW. And so it it should be its a dirty habit

It's also an offence in NSW to drive (play with) remote controlled cars on a roadway, fine is about $52 I think

[Ducati888]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

I think you need to look into road rules a lot more if you think there is only a couple

I am guessing you mean PCA is dealt with by booze busses as DUI is generally used for drug related and non motor vehicle related offenses as explained earlier.

Traffic cops are now caller highway patrol plenty out there, but obviously not enough.

Looks like you missed the point of my sarcasm. Of course there's more than two road rules, but nothing matters unless you are 1 kph over the limit these days.