SPOTTED --- Force 6 and Force 8

[XR8putts]

Yes these Force cars appear to be a bit dull. But people are saying that FPV have done nothing special since the initial BA launch.


Has everyone forgotten the TYPHOON?

I still believe this is cost cutting/filling the gap till Orion.

[Flaming Mo]

The purchasing officer at FPV has no doubt seriously overstocked the plant with the 2 year old FPV 5 spoke rims. It would appear that they are even putting them on the newly released "luxury" models just to clear the stock.

And the chrome side mirrors - smashing. I last saw a set of those sitting on the shelf at Super Cheap - next to the matching chrome stone reflectors.

[Aeron]

I'll have some pics up soon

[flappist]

FFS. It is amazing some of the comments here.

Did it ever occur to some of you that there are actually people in the world who wish to drive a performance car and NOT look like a high school rendition of The Fast and the Furious?

If you don't like it DON'T BUY IT. That is why they have a RANGE of vehicles.

FPV have 8 models in the BF2 serias; GT, GT-P, Typhoon, Tornado, Pursuit, Super Pursuit and now Force 6 and Force 8. They offer a choice of two engines and a style to suit almost everyone.

HSV also have 8 models; Clubsport R8, GTS, Senator Signature, Maloo, Maloo R8, Grange, Coupe Signature and VXR. They offer one engine, oh actually two versions of the same engine because the Grange, Maloo, Maloo R8 and Coupe are still left over Z series and of course the VXR is a rice bubble.

They have only just caught up to the FPV torque level and are, as yet, unproven in the field.
I am sure the HSV demos will all pull 10 second quarters but I am waiting to see some that have actually been bought from a shop on a track.

Stop your complaining. The BF2 is GREAT

[Boss 290]

yeh bf2 looks good but they have obviously brought these models in to clear the old stock eg chassy and body so that is good news that orion may be completely new and now it offers a new model in the range which will pick up sales, they probably changed the ratios which will improve economy and mabey acceleration...cheers

[Aeron]

Pics.

Force 6



http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2.../Force_6_2.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ce_6_and_8.jpg

Force 8



http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2.../Force_8_2.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2.../Force_8_3.jpg

GT



F6 Typhoon



I like what I see

[16wantsI6]

whats happened to the days of T3? that was what you would call a good decent effort from ford. infact they are one of the best facons out, they make 250kw and 500nm 'less then an xr8' yet are as fast as/faster than a GT, probably handle better to. that is what you would call engineering when FORD are in strife.
and whats with the GT? it makes 290kw and 515NM, yet an SS makes 270kw and 550nm and can beat them, you know theres a problem when FPV's flagship, when Holdens flagship can beat it, then theres HSV...

these force models are pathetic. to the naked eye know one will be able to tell the difference until they have a FORCED look at it. and what the hell does FORCE 8 mean anyway? do they have to force people to buy them because they cant even tell them from a GT? i hope ford are just distracting us for when they bring out there next REAL update.

i hope ford pull something big and scary out of there **** or it will be back in the corner for me until they do something good again.

[16wantsI6]

ok after seeing those pictures i soughta like them better but they are still a pretty poor effort, and the other FPV models haven't even changed! what the hell is the point of BFmkII?

[HSE2]

changed my mind

[JAZSXY]

a very tough turnout i must say

[Mark351]

I like em!

[T3rminator]

The Force 6 is just an XT with a FPV badge
The Force 8 is just an XT with a FPV badge and a bonnet buldge.
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Does anyone know if these will get beefed up engines? If not......what is the incentive to buy one? Is it cheaper than a GT?

:togo:

Sorry don't mean to bag the blue oval but this is embarassing.

Unless I've completely misunderstood their objective with this model......

[LUXO_8]

very impressive...loove the look of them, and Flappist has hit the nail on the head...
they now have a range of vehicles to suit almost everyone....

how many people bought BA/BF GT's and removed the spoilers??....heaps...

now they can buy the car they "really" wanted

ALSO
i have read SO MANY TIMES people drumming it to ford to make a turbo fairmont ghia, or put a boss into a fairmont ghia......

now that they've done it (ok, its an FPV model, but thats essentially what it is), people are sooking and bitching....i dont get it

Originally Posted by fullthrottle

The Force 6 is just an XT with a FPV badge
The Force 8 is just an XT with a FPV badge and a bonnet buldge.
:

Does anyone know if these will get beefed up engines? If not......what is the incentive to buy one? Is it cheaper than a GT?
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Force 6 is a Fairmont ghia with F6 engine
Force 8 is a Fairmont ghia with BOSS 290...

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i think people are interested...
i like, force 8, in deja vu, red leather....mmmmm.....

[Boss 290]

Originally Posted by 16wantsI6

whats happened to the days of T3? that was what you would call a good decent effort from ford. infact they are one of the best facons out, they make 250kw and 500nm 'less then an xr8' yet are as fast as/faster than a GT, probably handle better to. that is what you would call engineering when FORD are in strife.
and whats with the GT? it makes 290kw and 515NM, yet an SS makes 270kw and 550nm and can beat them, you know theres a problem when FPV's flagship, when Holdens flagship can beat it, then theres HSV...

these force models are pathetic. to the naked eye know one will be able to tell the difference until they have a FORCED look at it. and what the hell does FORCE 8 mean anyway? do they have to force people to buy them because they cant even tell them from a GT? i hope ford are just distracting us for when they bring out there next REAL update.

i hope ford pull something big and scary out of there **** or it will be back in the corner for me until they do something good again.

you my friend should not post anything until you know facts...i wont bother to show you your mistakes ill wait to see if anyone can be botherd to correct you

[Dezza]

In those pics, it looks like the GT gets the old GT-P rims, so I'm hoping the GT-P gets new rims, something completely different to help pick it apart from the GT.

[Lukeyson]

interesting to see the GT went back to the 2 stripes *i liked it better*, and i notice the hood decal still says Boss 290

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by ea_silver_ghia

In those pics, it looks like the GT gets the old GT-P rims, so I'm hoping the GT-P gets new rims, something completely different to help pick it apart from the GT.

It does.

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by Boss 290

you my friend should not post anything until you know facts...i wont bother to show you your mistakes ill wait to see if anyone can be botherd to correct you

No because even with the incorrect numbers and model confusion we get the general idea.

[WASP]

The Force 6 and 8 looks good, but those chrome mirrors are scaring me..lol I would still buy a GTS over any of them unfortunately, but as I'm not going to do that I'll have to wait for 2008, which doesn't bother me as an existing GT owner.

[Boss 290]

Originally Posted by HSE2

No because even with the incorrect numbers and model confusion we get the general idea.

pretty much everything he said was wrong....the t3 is not faster then a gt and probably does not handle better...the gt has 520 nm and not 515. an ss does not have 550nm it has 530nm...the hsv models have 550....yeh ford is slower but that is evolution...the ba was better then its equivelent and now holden has the better car ( in acceleration and power) but orion will be fords turn and people should get over it. the fpv's are still looking hot and they have plenty of power until the new cars are here...beside we dont know what fpv did in tuneing the cars

[XtRmn8]

They do look good because they look no different to the other FPV cars, apart from no spoiler.

I think that FPV could have done a tad more any given the Force 6 and Force 8 individual front and rear bumpers at least. Like I said before there is nothing new about these cars, we have seen it all before and FPV just combined a few existing parts here and there and Bobs your uncle! Event the interior has the same shape seats as standard Fairmont Ghia, surely they could have done a bit more on the seats at least??

Give the ***** resale of the Fairmont Ghia, the Force 6 and Force 8 could become a good bargain in couple of years time.

Like others have said, if spending 65k or 71k I'd much rather a GT-P over the Force 8 or Typhoon over Force 6.

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by Boss 290

pretty much everything he said was wrong....the t3 is not faster then a gt and probably does not handle better...the gt has 520 nm and not 515. an ss does not have 550nm it has 530nm...the hsv models have 550....yeh ford is slower but that is evolution...the ba was better then its equivelent and now holden has the better car ( in acceleration and power) but orion will be fords turn and people should get over it. the fpv's are still looking hot and they have plenty of power until the new cars are here...beside we dont know what fpv did in tuneing the cars

Yes I think most would realise the numbers were incorrect. You will get vigorous argument on the T3 comments but the fact remains we get the general idea of what he is saying

What makes you think Orion gets anymore power? It doesn't. FPV have listened to flappist and people like him and have decided there will be no improvements- ever. The logic is simple. If people still buy cars that essentially offer little in way of improvement after 2 years then 4 years why not extend that out to 10 years. Think of the money they will save. The reason why there haven't been any changes is that not enough people have demanded it. There will not be any changes until there is demand for it. If BF2 is great and it sells in numbers expect to see 290 bonnet decals for the foreseeable future. Any attempt to move will bring out the ire of the RVCOBH.

:Up_to_som

[Boss 290]

Originally Posted by HSE2

Yes I think most would realise the numbers were incorrect. You will get vigorous argument on the T3 comments but the fact remains we get the general idea of what he is saying

What makes you think Orion gets anymore power? It doesn't. FPV have listened to flappist and people like him and have decided there will be no improvements- ever. The logic is simple. If people still buy cars that essentially offer little in way of improvement after 2 years then 4 years why not extend that out to 10 years. Think of the money they will save. The reason why there haven't been any changes is that not enough people have demanded it. There will not be any changes until there is demand for it. If BF2 is great and it sells in numbers expect to see 290 bonnet decals for the foreseeable future. Any attempt to move will bring out the ire of the RVCOBH.

:Up_to_som

where do you get you facts from? how would you know if ford dont get more power or torque...maybe they will have the same power but lose 300 kilos we dont know so how would you know?

[Smoke Pursuit]

I happen to like the new models, id still buy one over the HSV, Holden really ****** up with the rear end as far as im concerned, now that ive seen a few on the road.

[Polyal]

Hmmm..well Ive had my say before on these cars, wont go there again..

To sum it up this represents how FoA/FPV are travelling at the moment, in a fiscal and strategy sense.

The problem is that while they do look hot, they just to to fimiliar. Whoever said that it should have the BF2 Ghia front end is correct IMO, that would have made it better, and it should have a unique front bar. All of which costs $$ and they dont have it, simple as that.

The idea is right, execution not so great.

The other issue at the moment is that FoA's range isn't really offering anything better than the VE range other than fuel economy, and those who really care about it are getting LPG anyway.

Its going to be tough times ahead, and like HSE2 said, they had better be holding off for something special.

BTW, that rear garnish on the Ghia's/Forces is pretty el cheapo! Although I love the bob-tail, but it could do with being a tad bigger, more like the ED XR range, it reminds me of the audi ones; which isn't such a bad thing I guess.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by HSE2

Yes I think most would realise the numbers were incorrect. You will get vigorous argument on the T3 comments but the fact remains we get the general idea of what he is saying

What makes you think Orion gets anymore power? It doesn't. FPV have listened to flappist and people like him and have decided there will be no improvements- ever. The logic is simple. If people still buy cars that essentially offer little in way of improvement after 2 years then 4 years why not extend that out to 10 years. Think of the money they will save. The reason why there haven't been any changes is that not enough people have demanded it. There will not be any changes until there is demand for it. If BF2 is great and it sells in numbers expect to see 290 bonnet decals for the foreseeable future. Any attempt to move will bring out the ire of the RVCOBH.

:Up_to_som

And to think you bought a BF? What was so good about it then compared to the 6.0L Holden?

You talk alot of **** mate, if it was good enough for you to buy a BF whats the big change all of a sudden, from my recollection the VZ LS2s were faster and had more power, begs to ask why didn't you buy one over the BF?

[Boss 290]

Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

And to think you bought a BF? What was so good about it then compared to the 6.0L Holden?

You talk alot of **** mate, if it was good enough for you to buy a BF whats the big change all of a sudden, from my recollection the VZ LS2s were faster and had more power, begs to ask why didn't you buy one over the BF?

because the falcon rules the fkuing roost mate...cheers

[twin_turb_xr6]

Yeah pretty sexy man....stick a couple of turbs on it and bobs ya auntys brother

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Boss 290

because the falcon rules the fkuing roost mate...cheers

I know that, but im trying to make a point.