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Oops my bad.... was distracted here and confused Ross with T3 sorry.
I still don't see any racism there
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I seem to recall reading a while back that in the US, hospitals were paid a little bit extra if a covid related death happened on their premises.
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yeah....we will all be in the same boat...the same safe thoroughly tested world best practice vaccines in ALL our bloodstreams. The best part? Every body willingly tested for covid has given their full identification down to DNA level to their friendly govt, much better than fingerprinting all of us....and now covid passports to eliminate anyone not caught in the drag net.
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The whole purpose of a pre-emptive 'plan' such as the Queensland one and the others that our Governments have at both the State and National levels is to outline a range of measures that might be used in the event of a declared pandemic (or war, or nuclear incident or AoG) as well as to identify what agencies are involved and the various powers available to them. The only correct thing you have stated thus far on this topic is that there wasn't a specific plan for COVID19 given that it couldn't possibly have been known to exist before it did but there clearly were plans in situ to deal with a novel coronavirus which is what COVID19 fundamentally is. Those plans were most recently updated in the wake of the previous two major novel coronaviruses (SARS-CoV-2 and MERS-CoV). No one would reasonably expect a pre-emptive plan to cover all possible scenarios - not even public servants are that anally retentive - but a lot of the measures that we have used had been identified in those plans and the various responsible agencies have added to them as we have learnt and progressed through the pandemic. Will we be better prepared for the next one? Certainly. Were we sufficiently prepared for this one? Probably. Were the plans comprehensive enough? Possibly not but that's the trouble with crystal balls. Did we really do enough last year? I think history will probably say we didn't if only because we didn't manage, as some other countries did, to keep it away from our most vulnerable people, those in aged care, who make up 752 of our 910 deaths. Worth adding that if we hadn't lost the battle in aged care then our CMR would be one of the lowest globally at 0.5% and not the almost 3% it currently is which is worse even than the UK (2.669%) or Brazil (2.792%) and only just slightly better than Italy (2.995%) which had similar issues in aged care.
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Risk of dying from AstraZeneca vaccine blood clots exposed
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Verdict: Partly false claim https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN22I2KR
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57260463
So how many cases of VITT have there been in the UK? Quote:
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National Cabinet set to slash the number of Australians allowed home
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Ah...relative pervasion again....another political sell job What about take Pfizer/Moderna/Sputnik and not get the blood clots at all?
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(a) no one mentioned a conspiracy (b) please read your own link it states they were paid 15% more not 20%...who cares what the magnitude of the payment was...not this little black duck...merely stating a fact.
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https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/cli...-mrna-vaccines There is also concerns about Pfizer and Heart inflammation https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...tion/100254282 On the whole the RNA are more effective and have less side effects. Would be my choice off the shelf, but it is old mother hubbard here for those.
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Yep...and if they wanted to share statistics with us it should have been related to other vaccines, not lightning strikes. How many people would die from a lightning strike if all 25 million aussies sat outside during a storm? Then did it twice for a second dose? But of course that doesn't produce the same headlines. Maybe a better statistic would be which vaccine is most effective versus the potential health risks? AZ would be bottom of every list.
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Yes I did read it, hospitals were compensated, but a LOT less than what people had thought, as it only applied to patients on medicare, which accounts for ~16% of the new york population.
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Ahh...they are reporting only the deaths...not all those who suffer minor stuff like heart damage or strokes or paralysis as a result of blood clot complications....clever...clever...clever
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 1st, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 31 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 2.970%. No cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.948% and active cases 31. The UK had a higher 27,556 cases yesterday and higher 22 deaths. A lower 14,504 new cases in the USA yesterday and higher 334 deaths sees CMR at 1.796%. Other notable points: Global cases pass 183M, the last 1M in 3 days; Europe passes 48M cases; South America passes 33M cases; India passes 400k (official) deaths; Africa set a new daily case high of 41,442; Fiji (431); Thailand (5,533); Tunisia (6,776); and Indonesia (24,836) ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. The United Kingdom, Cyprus, Kazakhstan and Iran move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while no countries drop below.
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Got my first jab yesterday.
Whole procedure was well organised and trouble free. Got a bit of a sore arm but that's the only issue so far. Get the next one in 3 weeks. Actually only issue was that I couldn't give feedback - apparently my Hotmail account is not a real account? And the feedback app is set up in a way that you are telling a 'story' or some airy fairy arty farty rubbish. Just give me a survey and a score to fill out for goodness sake. Good to hear on the radio this morning that they are considering travel incentives for vaccinated people. That should give more the motivation to get the jab. Hurry up... I have a passport that needs filling.
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GETTING A COVID JAB IS SAFER THAN TAKING ASPIRIN
The risk of rare side effects from COVID-19 vaccines like AstraZeneca are greatly exaggerated as they are far safer than many medicines people are taking every day By Professor Nathan Grills, University of Melbourne Quote:
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I think the desire of Australian residents to travel beyond Australia, will become a pivotal issue in politics. Soon as one party says they’ll lessen outbound restrictions, they’ll get a lot of support from younger voters.
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The constant backflips and prior confusion has caused great political harm and now they realised that once NA, Europe and Asia start allowing travel abroad in a metered and methodical manner they must follow suit. That graph of vaccination statistics based on countries was an embarrassing eye opener. On the radio last night they were saying there are still many tens of thousands coming and going each month. I can't recall the statistics but I thought WTF are all these people using as an excuse for coming and going? Praying I can go to SG next holidays with my kids. Somewhere different again at Christmas. Fingers crossed ay... Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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They kept moving the goalpost last year, and this year, now its 'mid 2022' , who is to say they cant just move it again, nobody stops them from doing so. And when people were using the NZ bubble to skip on further, because NZ cant actually stop Australians leaving to go to other countries, they dont have the laws to do that, Greg Hunt made it max 5 years prison and 60k fine for doing Australians doing so... they seem quite keen to keep people in as long as possible. |
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Now with the rollout of the vaccination things have changed. I don't care much for TV, but listen to talkback several hours a day. There is a growing resentment with the fact we can't go anywhere. Just wait a few more months to when we see all our international friends and family posting their first 'Post Covid' holidays to different countries. Only now are we starting to get talk of targets, concessions for the vaccinated and news articles actively promoting the jab and explaining where to get it sooner. All of a sudden banned medical centres are being given permission to deliver vaccinations. I can now book online simply and easily. AZ is now fine for anyone who wants it. Where was this months ago when things were going so great for us? The tide is turning. Big business is hurting and we don't have the hundreds of thousands of foreigners here to fill the jobs we can't be bothered getting out of bed for. It didn't help Scomo's case that he took a detour while on official business to tour an area exploring his family roots. Shame on him for being so insensitive of our situation while advising the rest of us we don't have any desire to travel. He was probably advised by his minders to do the 14 days in full so as to not rub more the wrong way. Shame on Gladys for instructing those at the party she attended with a positive Covid case to seek testing and quarantine for 14 days no matter what the results only for her to get an exemption after making a few calls and playing with the rules to suit herself. All the while people who are fully vaccinated and proven Covid free must farewell dying family via a zoom call. The reason? They blame us, we blame them. If not it's the medical advice. C'mon. I'm used this this petty BS in year 3... Unless you are rich, or famous then you can do as you please. If there was ever a protest I would be at the front of the line. I believe it will come soon enough.
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