2018 Ranger Raptor - Page 46

BENT_8 · 06-09-2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

have you done any sand driving recently??

Not in the last 3 years since I've been back in rwd cars.

articulatedsphinx · 06-09-2018, 02:21 PM

Heh, wonder what they would say about Ford's advertising campaign.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-0...er-rd/10204382

Vesper Martini · 06-09-2018, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Fair call but if it was insignificant to the process, as in standard practice for the conditions, why mention it?

From the article it looked a que to mention the paddle shifts.. quite significant to those that have driven manuals in the soft sand.

I recall a trip in the Wadi rum desert in Jordan, some of the old land cruisers actually had bald tyres, they said it helped them not bog and keep the power up

Bossxr8 · 06-09-2018, 02:46 PM

Gangbusters.

Ben73 · 06-09-2018, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

I’m talking about Australia, not Africa or Asia.

Yes but Ford have already said they are trying to please the entire market, not just Australia.
The Ranger is sold most places except North America. Except it looks like it will be there soon.

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Originally Posted by articulatedsphinx

Keyboard warriors are always loud.

Back in the day a Keyboard Warrior was someone who would talk themselves up or threatens violence towards people online.
I want to know at what point did it become a term that means "everyone who doesn't agree with me"

I know many people have ordered Raptors. Let's see what happens after the initial hype. I hope it sells, I don't want it to disappear after 2 years of sales.

jpd80 · 07-09-2018, 06:46 AM

Ford has taken the punt that a 2.0 diesel, 10-speed auto in Ranger Raptor
is the way to go with the majority of Ranger's predominantly diesel markets.

We keep reading that people dismiss the vehicle because of the engine,
the non-buyer will convince you that their opinion must be heard above
everyone else, why not give the vehicle a chance and let actual buyers
decide whether they like it or not.

It's all we have for now, so complain away, you won't see anything different until 2021.

BENT_8 · 07-09-2018, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

We keep reading that people dismiss the vehicle because of the engine,
the non-buyer will convince you that their opinion must be heard above
everyone else, why not give the vehicle a chance and let actual buyers
decide whether they like it or not.

It's all we have for now, so complain away, you won't see anything different until 2021.

To be fair jpd, how is that any different than the buyer trying to convince you that it is going to be awesome before they've driven it for any period of time, at the end of the day it is all just opinion until it is tested.
If anything, those who refuse to hear criticism have been the quickest to respond in numbers.

articulatedsphinx · 07-09-2018, 08:19 PM

On a bit of a lighter note I love these comparisons

They race the raptor against an i30 and a Sportscat hehe.

https://www.motoring.com.au/drag-rac...rtscat-114529/

Craig@AUDI · 08-09-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by articulatedsphinx

On a bit of a lighter note I love these comparisons

They race the raptor against an i30 and a Sportscat hehe.

https://www.motoring.com.au/drag-rac...rtscat-114529/

That's stupid, but highly entertaining...lol

ozrunner · 08-09-2018, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig@CumberlandFord

That's stupid, but highly entertaining...lol

And unfortunately like many have said embarrassing as the Raptor's acceleration is SLOW and it got hosed by a freaking Colarado.

Franco Cozzo · 08-09-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by articulatedsphinx

On a bit of a lighter note I love these comparisons

They race the raptor against an i30 and a Sportscat hehe.

https://www.motoring.com.au/drag-rac...rtscat-114529/

lol thai dual cab utes - the ladyboy of the ute world

articulatedsphinx · 08-09-2018, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ozrunner

And unfortunately like many have said embarrassing as the Raptor's acceleration is SLOW and it got hosed by a freaking Colarado.

Aw yeah man so hosed. I’m really going to miss that extra 10th of a second when I take my Raptor to the drag strip. /s

Maybe we should just call it Ford Ranger Super-Offroad-Jumpy Package, so people will stop complaining.

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articulatedsphinx · 08-09-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

lol thai dual cab utes - the ladyboy of the ute world

The Ranger, HiLux, and Navara are all made in Thailand.

Franco Cozzo · 08-09-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by articulatedsphinx

The Ranger, HiLux, and Navara are all made in Thailand.

Real ones appear to be made in the USA?

https://www.caradvice.com.au/680278/...aramie-review/

articulatedsphinx · 08-09-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Real ones appear to be made in the USA?

https://www.caradvice.com.au/680278/...aramie-review/

Now we are kind of getting off topic but.

I love how Dodge has the balls to launch the last generation Ram as a "new product" in Aus..

Some of those are also built in Mexico with plans to transition all production to the US.

Edit: The 1500 you are referencing is made in Mexico. ¡Arriba México!

Another Edit: You piqued my interest, of course I would much rather buy a F-series Raptor but on the other hand I'd rather not spend 195,000!! Like I don't even understand how Australia tolerates these prices. Just unbelievable.

Franco Cozzo · 08-09-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by articulatedsphinx

Now we are kind of getting off topic but.

I love how Dodge has the balls to launch the last generation Ram as a "new product" in Aus..

Some of those are also built in Mexico with plans to transition all production to the US.

Edit: The 1500 you are referencing is made in Mexico. ¡Arriba México!

Another Edit: You piqued my interest, of course I would much rather buy a F-series Raptor but on the other hand I'd rather not spend 195,000!! Like I don't even understand how Australia tolerates these prices. Just unbelievable.

I figured as much to be honest, it was just a smart *** jibe to see who would bite

RAM 1500 is $80K now as its being imported and converted locally with factory backing by ASV here in Melbourne, its on par with Ranger Raptor and upper spec VW Amarok prices.

Yes I'm aware it doesn't have anywhere near the 4x4 capabilities of the Ranger Raptor, but it will also spend the majority of its time on the street just quietly.

articulatedsphinx · 08-09-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I figured as much to be honest, it was just a smart *** jibe to see who would bite

RAM 1500 is $80K now as its being imported and converted locally with factory backing by ASV here in Melbourne, its on par with Ranger Raptor and upper spec VW Amarok prices.

Yes I'm aware it doesn't have anywhere near the 4x4 capabilities of the Ranger Raptor, but it will also spend the majority of its time on the street just quietly.

I really really hope that it does well and people buy these in cities and in rural areas, because that will be blood in the water for other manufacturers to hopefully bring more Full Size trucks to Australia. It's the same thing with the raptor engine how they say Australia will never buy this etc. I think you'd be surprised.

I think it is only a matter of time once buyers get a taste of how nice they can actually be, and how driveable they are. Having owned an F250 Lariat back in the states I can tell you it they really feel like driving a car. All the luxuries etc.

Even just a few years ago no one would think dual cab utes for a family car, but it's happening. Sedans are quickly going out of style for SUVs and utes.

Do you really need a truck that big? Probably not, but why not if you can afford it. Do I really need a 500hp car that can go fast? No. But I want one.

Craig@AUDI · 08-09-2018, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by articulatedsphinx

Aw yeah man so hosed. I’m really going to miss that extra 10th of a second when I take my Raptor to the drag strip.

Yep I'd take the Raptor to a drag strip (it's natural habitat right?), and save my Focus RS for 4WDing!

This thread is so amusing

prydey · 08-09-2018, 01:08 PM

RAM 1500 has pathetic payload for the size of the vehicle. Only about 800kg I believe.

Franco Cozzo · 08-09-2018, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

RAM 1500 has pathetic payload for the size of the vehicle. Only about 800kg I believe.

Hence the '1500' moniker - 1500, 2500 and 3500 indicate '1/2 tonne, 3/4 tonne and 1 tonne' variants with different towing capacities and payloads.

1500 is the baby of the family.

BENT_8 · 08-09-2018, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by articulatedsphinx

On a bit of a lighter note I love these comparisons

They race the raptor against an i30 and a Sportscat hehe.

https://www.motoring.com.au/drag-rac...rtscat-114529/

1/10th slower on the black stuff and only 4/10ths faster where its supposed to dominate for all the extra hardware.

Impressive..

articulatedsphinx · 08-09-2018, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

1/10th slower on the black stuff and only 4/10ths faster where its supposed to dominate for all the extra hardware.

Impressive..

On a flat paddock. Try again troll.

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BENT_8 · 08-09-2018, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by articulatedsphinx

On a flat paddock. Try again troll.

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Awesome, so as long as your heading for a sand dune in the middle of no where its a worth while addition.

Its niche is becoming a nook..

Shadowed by a sticker pack with half as many turbo's, 10kw less power, off the shelf tyres, an antique auto and fancy shocks which costs 15k less.

ozrunner · 08-09-2018, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig@CumberlandFord

Yep I'd take the Raptor to a drag strip (it's natural habitat right?), and save my Focus RS for 4WDing!

This thread is so amusing

Not really and you are missing the point.

The 10 speed is in it to make up for the pathetic 2.0l diesel and this shows it is still freaking slow and its a poor excuse for the name Raptor.

Yes, it has the goods suspension wise but as has been said here most will spend 99% of their time on sealed metro roads and its embarrassingly slow.

It was mentioned in a test elsewhere that it struggles on overtaking and this confirms why. So don't try passing a road train on your way to the bush unless you have a LOT of spare space otherwise you may not get there

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Such a shame and lets hope Ford pull the digit out on the next upgrade.

Romulus · 08-09-2018, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Yes I'm aware it doesn't have anywhere near the 4x4 capabilities of the Ranger Raptor, but it will also spend the majority of its time on the street just quietly.

Say less that 10% of buyers will ever avail themselves to the offroad capabilities of the Raptor, the Laramie fills a void left behind by the 'only milk and juice comes in 2 liters' power output from the RR.

Note every order for the Laramie is filled, no dealer stock. Just goes to show the appetite for a proper truck with a decent engine.

**Fordman1** · 08-09-2018, 04:03 PM

Same whiners. Different day.

But “Ignore” is powerful

Franco Cozzo · 08-09-2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

Say less that 10% of buyers will ever avail themselves to the offroad capabilities of the Raptor, the Laramie fills a void left behind by the 'only milk and juice comes in 2 liters' power output from the RR.

Note every order for the Laramie is filled, no dealer stock. Just goes to show the appetite for a proper truck with a decent engine.

I'm not against dual cab utes - I quite like the American variants as it can fit 5 people in it, can fit things in the back and they go acceptably, I've also previously owned a GMC Sierra 3500 and F100 (both single cab).

'Acceptably' is not a high 17 second 1/4 mile - I've got a manual turbo diesel Focus with light modifications that ran a 16.32 with torque limiter on the first 3 gears - it goes 'acceptably' for street use, something a bit quicker would be better.

I've driven all the modern Thailand special dual cab utes and they wouldn't get past a 18 year old woman on her way to pilates if she induced some highway aggro in her $5000-special first car TDCI Focus

I'm seeing a lot of people trying to defend the Ranger Raptor can fly over bumps and be mad off road - too bad it sucks in the other 99% of the time you drive the car, its not worthy of the 'Raptor' branding and it cheapens the brand, same as the HSV 'sportscat'.

RANGEREST · 08-09-2018, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

Say less that 10% of buyers will ever avail themselves to the offroad capabilities of the Raptor, the Laramie fills a void left behind by the 'only milk and juice comes in 2 liters' power output from the RR.

Note every order for the Laramie is filled, no dealer stock. Just goes to show the appetite for a proper truck with a decent engine.

Any buyer that's comparing these is delusional, just like anyone buying a RR for an every day run around is... well, a twat.
And the Ram Laramie is too big for an every day run around, and 130k, which leaves 50k to install/engineer a 5.0 into the RR

Franco Cozzo · 08-09-2018, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RANGEREST

Any buyer that's comparing these is delusional, just like anyone buying a RR for an every day run around is... well, a twat.
And the Ram Laramie is too big for an every day run around, and 130k, which leaves 50k to install/engineer a 5.0 into the RR

RAM Larame is just under sub $100K RRP.

RANGEREST · 08-09-2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

'Acceptably' is not a high 17 second 1/4 mile - I've got a manual turbo diesel Focus with light modifications that ran a 16.32 with torque limiter on the first 3 gears - it goes 'acceptably' for street use, something a bit quicker would be better..

17 seconds is unacceptable for an offroad 4x4 but somehow 16.39 IS acceptable for a road car?