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HAHAHA would you tell the press and the public you lost money on a ridiculous car? ![]() on topic, if the mustang and falcon do share the same chassis, it wouldn't involve too much work shoe-horning the I6 into the bay of the 'stang would it? i mean if the car will be getting a revision in 2015/16 anyway they may bring it back to the old style of longer bigger bonnet and what not... and then we could export I6's.... ah the dream... |
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This is beyong exciting but I cant help but feel Geelongs manufacturing might suffer still with the I6, unless they can justify it for our market still; that would b the icing on the cake.
But the amount of tech this opens up for FoA is massive. Things were looking grim for a while but I cant see how it gets better than this, even if the Terry becomes a victim, which I doubt given the amount of money thats been put into it.
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I just keep hearing 2 door falcon
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Guys, screw the media.
They've been anti ford forever, they're pro certain persuasions of government; they've got far too much power full stop, and my sister who agrees is an MD of a publishing company (former writer, then editor and now MD. Went to Charles Sturt and was in same class as Jessica Rowe, but that's another story). Anyway, make a difference and show your support for ford. Guys who work in fleets or have a choice of company car, choose the ford. Guys buying a car, choose the ford. Guys helping a relative buy a car, go to ford. Ford have the weaponry to win over any customer, so lets help ford by getting people down to the dealerships.
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I'm no chassis expert, RWD expert, marketing expert, or an expert on anything really but coming from the angle of a car admirer this announcement simply makes sense and seems logical, a no brainer. All hype and cycnicism removed this seems like a fantastic announcement for ford lovers and from the news I believe we are in for some exciting times for our beloved coon.
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It would seem logical that Broadmeadows would produce all the RHD editions of GRWD...Which would probably be Falcon and Mustang (and Terri) and then export the Mustang to UK, Japan and any other RHD market.
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bah, the media have been trying to kill the falcon for the last 20 years, its still here, and sounds like good news for the future - and its their 50th anniversary
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![]() Considering it was a some time ago when I saw it (Road Warrior, wasn't the one you suggested), things are always subject to change. But as we all know, things are on the improve and Ford are on a role, if there's a time that this program is getting close to green light again, it would be now. |
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In the words of the late Kevin McQuay - I'M EXCITED!
This is freaking awesome news. |
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The last Mustangs (that came here in 2001) were all Australian conversions done by FTE at a total cost of $4m for the 250 cars - that's $16k per car plus the 55 hours each to build them. In doing so there were 150 new major and 200 minor components that were changed in the conversion process and because these were all short run production items their cost was horrible. To quote: The vehicles’ tail lamps and head lamps are Japanese specification, which are closer to meeting Australian design rules. The head lamp beam is oriented to right hand drive. The rear tail lamps are further modified in Australia to meet design rules, while the head lamps are supplemented by a set of high beam lamps. This process involves the first change to the Mustang’s sheet metal. The front bumper cover is removed and cut to allow the new lamps to be fitted, while the steel beam is also removed and the lamps attached to it by brackets. Two new bezels are fitted over the lamps. New side indicator lamps are fitted in Australia. The other modification carried out in the States involves the seats, with the electric driver’s seat installed on the right hand side on the line in Detroit. Other US modifications include the installment of an Australian ADR-compliant windscreen, seatbelts and a Japanese-spec exhaust to meet local noise requirements. The repositioning of the steering column and pedals creates a domino effect under the bonnet of the Mustang. The air-conditioning and heating system has to be moved to the left hand side of the car, which requires a major reworking of the system by a third party supplier in Australia. Under the bonnet, hoses and wiring that serve the air-conditioning system are re-routed to accommodate its new position. The instrument panel also needs to be disassembled, with the instrument cluster, air ducts, controls and air registers all re-positioned. The passenger’s airbag also is repositioned. Other cabin items that require modification include the power window switches and their bezels, the power side mirror controls and the mirrors themselves, the sunvisors (for ADR purposes) and the seatbelt and child restraint anchors. In other words, it was a major effort and although they initially retailed at $85-95k, the majority were sold between $65-75k. For any low volume vehicle, the cost of ADR (and more specifically emissions) compliance is substantial (think $2m+) and that cost has to be spread across the likely sales volumes which typically aren't high. Cheers Russ
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I see it as positive news both for Falcon, and for Ford Australia.
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The way it was reported and half of the contributors on this forum made it sound like they were replacing the FG falcon with the 1995 taurus. Facts are: GRWD will much like GM's Zeta program. (Commadore, Comaro, Statesman/Falcon, Mustang, Lincoln) This means a huge investment in cash, which cant be a bad thing. A large investment in cash means that instead of simply revising parts/systems they get completely redesigned and much more new technologies can be employed. GRWD will be a base for Performance (Mustang) and luxury (lincoln) vehicles as well as the falcon, so dynamically its design will be very versitile. Yes, things will change, the I6 will go, too hard to efficiently package in a global car when no other potential engines are anywhere near as long. However, ford do have some really great engines coming online and the falcon will be designed to have these from the outset. (eg, no more 10 years wait for diesel). |
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I see where you're going etc, but I think there's just going to be too much compromise trying to put the Mustang and the Falcon and the Lincoln LS all on th same platform. Perhaps if they made the Falcon significantly smaller and left the Lincoln out, it would be achieveable. Nothign wrong with a smaller lighter and more nimble Falcon, back to it's roots. The Falcon originally was a compact car anyway (believe it or not!). They could do with less of this modern bloat.
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I know it hasn't got much chance, but, a retro styled XA-C coupe would be better then a mustang...
They could sell it as a Torino in america!
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One is Territory. And the other is Fairlane
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Would the other be Fairlane/LTD?
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