Xbox360 or PS3

[347_XR8]

Just got an xbox360..GREAT FUN!

[Falcon_Phill]

Originally Posted by tempest

Yes games contintue to grow, there is no reason that microsoft cannot move to HD DVD or Blu Ray in the future with a simple add-on, yes it'l be more expense for owners, but recognise the premium that you must pay for a PS3, in the end, it can be done

You are paying a premium, the same premium people paid for with the blu ray player, the 60gb HD and all the memory readers on the front of the PS3, which together with the cost of the basic 360 would equal to about the price of a PS3 anyway, which is once again getting what you paid for. I dont see how they would put in a blu ray player anyway, not with a simple add on.

GTA IV is an example of one of many games, and there is a point to upgrading to the newer consoles and that is mainly for graphics. I say that because GTA IV could easily be run on PS2, just with San Andreas textures etc but nobody wants to continue to use old technology. So if your buying a console for those reasons, then I don't know why anyone would want to play games using say, a Geforce 7600 when they could be using an 8800.

I don't see what XBOX is going to do when a massive game is released and is unable to accommodate for the size, so far for Unreal Tornament 3 and Project Gotham Racing 4 (both popular games) they have compressed and taken things out because of it such as maps, but the blu ray discs will have all content + more. And old games rule! I don't expect them to change because of a new system. My favorite game ever is still Deus ex for PC. But until the new SOCOM comes out on PS3 I'll still be playing the 3rd installment.

Anyway I'm going to bed, too much **** talking for one night.

[BionicGT]

Originally Posted by tempest

THE TYPHOON IS LESS ENJOYABLE THAN A GT MAN - THE ENGINE CAPACITY IS SMALLER

I can't agree more. : Bet you wish you never said it now (joke)

Back on the thread, if you just want a cheap machine to play games - Xbox 360 will do it (it is basically only a tarted up PC). But that's about all it does.

If you want a high technology, complete media platform, the PS3 is way out in front of the Xbox.

The PS3 not only plays games but it plays Blu-ray disks (superb quality on my HD projector system), it outputs full 1080p @ 24Hz (same as top quality dedicated Blu-ray players), it upconverts DVDs to HD (and does a better job than a high quality Denon DVD player I have), it streams media (including videos) off your PC over your LAN (wired or via the built in wireless lan) straight onto the projector, Sony regularly issues free online software updates that keep increasing the capability of the system, it uses Bluetooth controllers and there still is more features to come to further enhance it (Digital TV tuner making it a PVR has been announced by Sony).

Technologically it is far superior to the Xbox 360. There is no comparison on technology.

PS3 is superior - game, set & match !

[I FluXx I]

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

No, I'm a gamer who enjoys my PS3 over an obsolete machine. I enjoy having discs with a max capacity of 54gb on a dual layer disc rather than a 9gb disc. I enjoy having exclusive titles rather than just one being 'Halo' and a few racing games. I enjoy the better graphics, the faster speeds and the backwards compatibility.

I don't mind the XBOX 360, but the only reason I would buy one is for online play, but even then it doesn't interest me that much, so when you take a look at the topic title again you'll find I am pointing out which machine is better, and not that I'm a fan boy. Why don't you try reading all pages of the argument first before clicking that little submit button.

Iv been in this thread since the beginning buddy and actually posted up comparison shots. All you have done is sit here and preach like the 14 year old PS3 fanboy you are how the PS3 is supa awesome with its 54gb disks, which 80% dosnt even get used. And in pretty much every comparison shot, the 360 looks better.

You mention you enjoy the faster speeds of the PS3. Mabey there is something wrong with my PS3, because load times are alot quicker with my 360. Graphics are pretty much on par with each other, although lighting looks alot better on the 360.

Your trying to point out which console is better, but you only own one. Which gives off the vibe that your a one sided fanboy.

I enjoy my PS3, its a great machine. But I enjoy my 360 more.

[I FluXx I]

Its allways funny when you hear sony fanboys saying "I don't mind the XBOX 360, but the only reason I would buy one is for online play, but even then it doesn't interest me that much". Its almost allways that exact quote. Which means "I do love the 360's online capability's, but im not going to let everyone know that, so instead tell everyone that im not interested in online play which pretty much rules that console out, and if im not interested in it, then no one is. And everyone should just buy a PS3. : :togo:

[Falcon_Phill]

Originally Posted by I FluXx I

Iv been in this thread since the beginning buddy and actually posted up comparison shots. All you have done is sit here and preach like the 14 year old PS3 fanboy you are how the PS3 is supa awesome with its 54gb disks, which 80% dosnt even get used. And in pretty much every comparison shot, the 360 looks better.

You mention you enjoy the faster speeds of the PS3. Mabey there is something wrong with my PS3, because load times are alot quicker with my 360. Graphics are pretty much on par with each other, although lighting looks alot better on the 360.

Your trying to point out which console is better, but you only own one. Which gives off the vibe that your a one sided fanboy.

I enjoy my PS3, its a great machine. But I enjoy my 360 more.

First of all, im not your buddy. Second of all, most blu ray discs do use the majority of the size available to them, such as Black Hawk Down which uses 44gb. Its also unwise to say that they don't use all the space, when theres a reason for it, GAMES WILL COME OUT THAT ARE BIGGER! Something Microsoft didn't take into consideration very seriously. You have brought up the stupidest points in this thread so far, do some research and actually try and fight the facts, many of which BionicGT posted.

[MITCHAY]

Well I've played both and really I'd be happy with either one. I was playing some shooting game on the PS3 and I'm just so unco with those controls :

[I FluXx I]

some games will take up more space. The majority of them though are just direct ports from the 360. So what specific games are you playing now that are so big in size??<<real question.

[Falcon_Phill]

I already mentioned two that are being cut to size, Unreal tournament and Project Gotham Racing, shall I search for more? And the majority of them aren't direct ports, I don't know where you pulled that from.

[tempest]

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

You are paying a premium, the same premium people paid for with the blu ray player, the 60gb HD and all the memory readers on the front of the PS3, which together with the cost of the basic 360 would equal to about the price of a PS3 anyway, which is once again getting what you paid for. I dont see how they would put in a blu ray player anyway, not with a simple add on.

Wow...that is the point i was making, ppl pay more for PS3 becuase of that. Microsoft already have a HD DVD accessory, although not yet intended for games, developers say that they would like to be able to develop on HD DVD. If BD is to be the new format, Microsoft can introduce a BD player accessory, no plans for that atm, but can be done if needed. This being the case, the prices will converge. Like i already pointed out - no surprise there.

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

do some research and actually try and fight the facts, many of which BionicGT posted.

360 plays HD DVD at 1020p 24hz, it can also upconvert DVD to HD on all HD TV's (PS3 only does it on HDMI compatible TVs), 360 also streams media from PC to 360, wired or wireless (yes the wireless is extra - but that contributes to convergence in prices). 360 also offers full Media Centre functionality, whilst already offering both live and recorded HDTV support, Microsoft regulary issues free online updates, that you guessed it - increases the capability of the system.

The big PS3 advantage has is future capability, yes it is technically superior - that represents an advantage as games evole. Yes, it supports BD -thats also an advantage as games grow (BD has the possibility of failing in itself). 360 users can play against PC based users, it is integrated with MSN, has a fully fledged and integrated online experience with the ability to download movies and tv shows.

WOOPO DI DO DA, both consoles have advantages that enhance the gameplay and multimedia experience, gosh what a surprise that is. It represents different experiences, both being great.

You can sit there and agrue blue in your face about the ps3 technical superiority, because that, it seems, is what you intend to do. I dont think ppl really care, becuase most ppl (non fanboys) acknowlegde that both consoles are great machines and can be the source of much enjoyment.

Myself, I might go and play one of the many great 360 games I have, I might even go online and invite my mates to play with me. Why? Becuase thats what I enjoy doing. Also - guess what - one day i might even buy a PS3 AND still enjoy playing the likes of Bioshock, Gears of War, Halo's, etc etc!!!! (shock horror)

Just to reiterate - im not trying to provoke you into another offensive/defensive rant, im trying to make you realise that each console has advantages. Can you go as far as saying one is God, and the other is a unenjoyable street bum? No. Is that logic so hard to understand?

[I FluXx I]

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

I already mentioned two that are being cut to size, Unreal tournament and Project Gotham Racing, shall I search for more? And the majority of them aren't direct ports, I don't know where you pulled that from.

I actually asked you what size are the games that are out now on PS3?

Both systems have similar specs and the PS3 is not as far in front of the 360 as you think. Where at a level now where it all comes down to software. Many developers are actually complaining on how the PS3 is much harder to program for. EA for example hate the tools used for programing PS3 games and cant be stuffed going to all the hassle of using them. Pretty much all there games are made for the 360 then ported to the PS3. Its not just EA doing it aswell, ubisoft are doing exactly the same. In fact some of the only games programed from the start for the PS3 are the exclusives.

Last generation alot of developers ported games from the PS2 to Xbox for the same reason. But last time it was still easy enough for them to add extra stuff(better textures....). Now there not even bothering to do that. Think about it, It makes much more sense to program the same game for the platform that is easier to program for, then port the game to the other console(s).

Like what was said in someone else's post, pretty much everything that BionicGT posted, the 360 can do aswell. The only PS3 has that the 360 dosnt is Bluray. But then Xbox has HDDVD

[Falcon_Phill]

Its 'we're' at a level. And I don't think your the one to say what level the world is at with anything, once again your points are stupid. I'm done with this topic, there is no intelligent conversation just the same recycled rubbish again and again without responses to anything important brought up. Take a look at the specs and you have your answer, also note the 360 has been out for longer so of course it'll have more games. And apparently I'm the fan boy. See ya.

[tempest]

lol....he you cant even concede that everything ive said bout 360 v ps3 is valid, and u cannot admit both are extremely good gaming consoles...wow

btw fluxx if u have xbl, add me Michael351

[tempest]

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

there is no intelligent conversation just the same recycled rubbish again and again without responses to anything important brought up. Take a look at the specs and you have your answer

I responded to everything you (and BionicGT) said. My responce to that was both valid and true. You however cannot admit that for some reason. I think you dug a hole for yourself by getting up on your soapbox and proclaming the PS3 as gospel, and claiming the 360 is redundant...

Why cant you admit (i know your reading this btw) both are great consoles, they both have their advantages, and they both represent a great gaming experience?

[I FluXx I]

no worrys mate. Will add ya.

My gt is: I FluXx I

btw phill, Im not trying to say what level the world is on you incoherent boob. But I am trying to get the point across that the 360 and PS3 are on a similar level as far as hardware go's. I can do this by reading numerous un bias articles comparing the two machines specs and capability's. I can forgive you for not having the same privilege as me, because by judging your responses to my numerous posts, you cant read. You also seem to lack the ability to be able to make fair comparisons, you one eyed fanboy

I like my PS3, but theres no denying that 360 offers pretty much everything the PS dose for alot less money.

Have fun with your PS3, il enjoy the best of both worlds with both consoles.


cheers

[Falcon_Phill]

Originally Posted by Illiterate person who cannot read

Why cant you admit (i know your reading this btw) both are great consoles

Originally Posted by Illiterate person who cannot read again

lol....he you cant even concede that everything ive said bout 360 v ps3 is valid, and u cannot admit both are extremely good gaming consoles...wow

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

Both systems are great

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

I don't mind the XBOX 360

Idiots. Honestly, your like two little kids who don't even go through the whole argument, now go find something else to pick at.

[I FluXx I]

you say things like that and then follow it with a "but", or an argument as to why the PS3 is far superior(which has no merit at all, seeing as you dont even own a 360 or have most likely not even experienced live or the full capability's of the 360) . Im just trying to prove that the PS3 is not the almighty superior console your trying to make it out to be. Wait, rephrase that. The PS3 is an almighty console, but im just trying to prove to you that its not the only one out there. The 360 is very similar hardware wise and has a great online system with a great library of games. HDDVD, and the ability to start off as basic as no HDD and wired controllers and upgrade at will, or to start off with the new fully fledged Elite black 360 with a HDMI port and 120GB HDD. Which is costing something like $730. Still much cheaper than the PS3

You saying "both systems are great" or "I dont mind the 360" means nothing. You have been bitching on how the 360 is obsolete for days. You just through in a lying comment like this every now and then so dont look like a one eyed fanboy

Mabey if you can actually give some usefull info in your next post why the PS3 is superior????

[Falcon_Phill]

Originally Posted by I FluXx I

You saying "both systems are great" or "I dont mind the 360" means nothing

So if I dont say it, im a fanboy, and when I do say it, it means nothing? Do you see how it sounds yet?

Originally Posted by I FluXx I

give some usefull info in your next post why the PS3 is superior

Read the specs, its a fact.

[I FluXx I]

no, its the way you say it and what you say following it.

I have read the specs, the PS3 has slightly better specs than the 360. But its not a whole world apart from the Xbox. And you can see this by comparing screen shots of the PS3 and 360. Both very simular, PS3 with slightly better textures, and the 360 slightly better lighting

[Falcon_Phill]

Then lets leave it at that.

[5.4 GT]

Originally Posted by I FluXx I

Both very simular, PS3 with slightly better textures, and the 360 slightly better lighting

You can't make that as a comparison it's in the way the game has been coded and specifically set up for each platform. Some of the features of a certain platform may not have been activated or not suited to that game.

[5.4 GT]

Btw to all those who ran out and got an Xbox 360 before the elite (supposedly its been somewhat fixed in this version) came out did any experience the enviro solder resoldering effect that I have frequently heard about on console threads?

[I FluXx I]

yep, but its getting fixed for free with the extended 3 year warranty. I mite get an elite. I need a bigger HDD and something about the console being black.....

[Franky]

Originally Posted by I FluXx I

You got it modded! You get banned off live because microsoft can detect if you have one.

I dont really get what mean by the live is better on PS3. Everyone knows that xbox live is years ahead of the online service that sony offers. Everything is set up much better, more online content, getting in contact with people is easier, MSN, managing friends......

Yeah well If you're unlucky enough to live in a rural area that has the worst internet coverage in Australia then Live! on 360 is useless as tits on a bull.

I said that the only thing Xbox has it over the Ps3 is it's Live! service... I never said the live is better on ps3. Either way if your lucky enough to have a 360 or PS3 who cares, why don't you bag out the wii people or the ps2 people? Your comparing 2 premium consoles than lots of people would be happy with either

[I FluXx I]

i wasnt comparing. Just trying to point out that both consoles are great and I enjoy both.

Wait! I know someone in portland who has a xbox and a 360 and has had live for around 2 years. My sisters actually visiting someone in portland in October.

[Ives]

So what's the verdict.

[blueoval]

How often do you guys download software updates to your systems?

How important is it to do so?

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by blueoval

How often do you guys download software updates to your systems?

How important is it to do so?

I assume you're talking about xbox?

I do so whenever they're available. My xbox is on my network so regardless of what game I play, live knows what I'm playing and will advise me of an update. If you don't update then you're subject to the problems that the patch is probably there to fix and/or you probably won't be able to play on live with that game.

If you're talking about dashboard, same deal really.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Rodp

I assume you're talking about xbox?

I do so whenever they're available. My xbox is on my network so regardless of what game I play, live knows what I'm playing and will advise me of an update. If you don't update then you're subject to the problems that the patch is probably there to fix and/or you probably won't be able to play on live with that game.

If you're talking about dashboard, same deal really.

Thanks mate, I was talking about all consoles really. But in saying that I got the PS3 on the weekend and was also seeing how important that is with that too. Looks like what your saying is important as a general rule.

I have updated the PS3 with the latest software update and seems to work better now with some back compatible titles like singstar.

Ok going to play F1 now.

Cheers again

[Falcon_Phill]

I wish some major title would come out on PS3, Ive been waiting way too long already its getting ridiculous.