SPOTTED --- Force 6 and Force 8 - Page 6

LeadFoot81 · 25-10-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kinksta

dude, just you wait for the new HSV Grange!!!

My Mrs has already chewed me out for drooling over the VZ Grange and VE Caprice! I can sense another whooping!

On a side note I think the general styling themes of these Force cars are a prelude to Orion-The organic front and rear bumpers, and general chunky stance.

merlin · 25-10-2006, 11:36 AM

Well I have always been a fan of the F6 Typhoon - but wanted more luxury and less "look at me". Would definatly be interested in a Force 6 in the future.

phoon · 25-10-2006, 12:50 PM

Good find mate, but dissapointing cars. Not happy Jan. Thought they would have come up with something better than that. Even the badging looks lame.

VZSS250 · 25-10-2006, 12:52 PM

The BA GT showed that there were signs of life in Ford yet, but the years have proven that the profit driven culture at Ford is so strong that they are blinded to the advantages of having a loss making halo car - a GTHO with premium performance levels. You know...the way Holden was willing to make a loss on Monaro.

FPV promised so much in 2002. All along they have hinted at big things to come, but nothing substantial has eventuated. All of a sudden someone said, lets delete the stripes and spoiler and hey presto...a new model!

LeadFoot81 · 25-10-2006, 12:59 PM

So a HSV senator is just a clubsport without whatever it is a clubsport has? Its a different model for a different customer.
Times are tough and Ford/FPV have been a lot more realistic about their situation than Holden/HSV have. Ford/FPV dont have export deals, and great big engines they can ship in from the US. Theyre doing the best they can with what they have. If they had the cash, Im sure theyd do some crazy halo models, but its not to be unfortunately.

ltd · 25-10-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VZSS250

The BA GT showed that there were signs of life in Ford yet, but the years have proven that the profit driven culture at Ford is so strong that they are blinded to the advantages of having a loss making halo car - a GTHO with premium performance levels. You know...the way Holden was willing to make a loss on Monaro.

FPV promised so much in 2002. All along they have hinted at big things to come, but nothing substantial has eventuated. All of a sudden someone said, lets delete the stripes and spoiler and hey presto...a new model!

Well, at least they didn't spend 1 billion on it, and then find out not too many people want; ahem ve ahem.

Fordoldie · 25-10-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Yes, and this is exactly why we're seeing no more performance improvements, sales are strong, and have continued to keep improving, FPV will be thinking why fix something that in the eyes of the consumer isnt broken? why offer more if people arent demanding it? if sales are strong then FPV will see this as the key indicator that the product is right.
Im split down the middle on this, as a one eyed Ford performance vehicle enthusiast this is frustrating, i like to see continual improvement, even if there's nothing wrong with the current offering.

I also see problems with the fact Holden's SS just wallopped the GT so how are they going to fair against HSV?

4Vman · 25-10-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordoldie

I also see problems with the fact Holden's SS just wallopped the GT so how are they going to fair against HSV?

Is it really going to matter? Going by recent sales history FPV may very well keep selling Cars at the same rate...

GlennBA · 25-10-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by merlin

Well I have always been a fan of the F6 Typhoon - but wanted more luxury and less "look at me". Would definatly be interested in a Force 6 in the future.

WTF??
It looks EXACTLY the same!! just no wing!

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Juiceman · 25-10-2006, 01:31 PM

they are so nice, I will take both

pHaT`eL · 25-10-2006, 01:33 PM

I LOVE the look of the new range, can anyone else see DJR320 in the Force range? I loved the look of the original T-Series, and the T3 for that matter, just needs to be dropped a little, and chrome GT rims, and voila!
Just wish i had the $70k+ for one.. :(

Fordoldie · 25-10-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Is it really going to matter? Going by recent sales history FPV may very well keep selling Cars at the same rate...

Hopefully they wont be effected, we will see. Im not sure the changes made are in any way enough to persuade anyone but the diehard Ford enthusiast to buy one

Poetic Justice · 25-10-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pHaT`eL

I LOVE the look of the new range, can anyone else see DJR320 in the Force range? I loved the look of the original T-Series, and the T3 for that matter, just needs to be dropped a little, and chrome GT rims, and voila!
Just wish i had the $70k+ for one.. :(

The only thing that may look DJR320 is the bob tail, everything else is different. Different rims, different front bar, no bonnet ornament....

irsa76 · 25-10-2006, 01:41 PM

The more I think about the Force range the more I feel it was a quckly concived exercise in reminding the market that FPV is still around in the face of the HSV E series. It appears that the only "development" done was on the badges and the rear lip. That said, I think they might actually sell.

DJL351 · 25-10-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GlennAUII

WTF??
It looks EXACTLY the same!! just no wing!

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Are you sure?????? :yeees:

There looks like there is a lot more different between the two.

TheSneakiness · 25-10-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DJL351

Are you sure?????? :yeees:

There looks like there is a lot more different between the two.

It looks like on the Force6 that they moulded 2 different FPV front bars into one. (BA MkII Typhoon and BF GT).

Other than that, it looks the same... without a rear spoiler.

CaRtZ · 25-10-2006, 02:25 PM

does anyone see the resemblance between the back end of the Force 6 and a VY? just the lower section with the mesh...... not happy. overall they arent much different to the baloved BA... still look the goods too tho. theyd wanna go bloody hard to the point the VE's are left standin as they havent put much into body design!

i really hope this isnt Ford's response to the VE

Boss 290 · 25-10-2006, 02:31 PM

i read wheels magazine and the ss was not much quicker then the gt .2 in it really and they said its probable it could get better times....the gts in another section was not much faster in times either....what i did notice was that the gt had a higher km per hour reading then the ss did so the gt does show possiblities if it had better traction....the gts how ever had a much higher km reading then the ss and gt about 10 km in it

big_pete · 25-10-2006, 02:32 PM

i still dont get it.

surely theres not enough of a difference to warrant a new model.

when you see HSV come up with the goods with the VE, with new technolgoies, edgy designs etc, you cant help but be dissapointed with FPV.
for what could be an exciting new car (the name Force could surely be used more effectively) its a let down for sure

DJL351 · 25-10-2006, 02:42 PM

So is the issue everyone is having with the car itself or the NAME? :jab:

If it was called FPV 270 & FPV 290 or G270 & G290 would everyone still be cracking the sh*ts?

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Boss 290 · 25-10-2006, 02:45 PM

i dont see one thing with this new car....its for people who like the gt and typhoon but want more luxury and class...these cars add that...whats the problem? its only bf2 orion is the next generation get over it and be happy we have more to choose from

Boss 290 · 25-10-2006, 02:46 PM

id love to see these cars as 2 door varients though

photn · 25-10-2006, 02:53 PM

i reckon ppl will buy these and add a GT/F6 rear spoiler so they get the best of both worlds....the F6 look and the Ghia style...Luxury...

bathurst77 · 25-10-2006, 02:54 PM

I guess it all comes down to suspension tune and just how luxo it is inside.
I hope it has all the goodies you can imagine, not just leather seats piano black and plastic chrome inserts and a few badges.
It should have akick *** stereo, DVDs in the headrests (ala caprice) A LEFT FOOTREST etc etc

The Monty · 25-10-2006, 03:29 PM

I love them. They look awesome, and too much luxury is never enough.

XR8putts · 25-10-2006, 03:39 PM

How long before an idiot puts stripes on a Force6/8?

LeadFoot81 · 25-10-2006, 03:41 PM

Does anyone have details on how much luxury these cars copped? I was under the impression they were basically Fairlane G220s inside.

sfr rob · 25-10-2006, 03:42 PM

oh damn... i liked the idea of these cars coming out... but now i am pretty damn dissapointed to say the least!
It has already been said... but why would Ford bother releasing these when they really are just a GTP or Typhoon with all the goodies minus a wing + a new badge.
It is POOR marketing from the team at Ford i think, waste of time and money.

CSV_LS1 · 25-10-2006, 03:50 PM

Force 6/8 is a move in the right direction.
An extra 10kw across the range would of helped it's image a little more though.

Poetic Justice · 25-10-2006, 04:18 PM

A real lot of speculation is happening surrounding these cars. It's interesting to see FPV reverting back to a styling cue from the early T-Series, which I personally liked but a lot of people dont.

Those cars look awesome, I'd consider one, but it's hard to understand just what the reason is behind releasing a vehicle that visually looks very similar to the current vehicles with a couple of exterior mods.

What I do believe is there is a surprise somewhere there, and I believe it will probably be in the pricing..

I'm sure David Flint left strict orders for **** like this not to happen, and I'm sure with the success FPV have had in the market since the release of the BA means that they know what they shouldn't be doing as a result of the failed T-Series cars. (Bar T3)