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Wasn't that the same thing that Holden was ****ing about when they released all the VE info at launch? Something about the sheetmetal for the exterior body panels varying in thickness depending on where the strength was needed?
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FoA is gutsy just continuing with the E8 platform until 2015, so much can happen between then and now. Trying to work out today what car you will need in five years time has to be the ultimate blind man's bluff. Me, I'm going to watch the fireworks unfold when the Ecoboost I-4 Falcon starts cutting a swathe through fleet sales coveted by I-4 Camry and 3.0 Commodore. This gentleman, Austin worked as an engineer on the Mustang D2C platform developed back in the early 2000's and also associated with quite a few FoA engineers at the time: Quote:
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What i'm saying is that GRWD doesn't have to detract from fuel economy if that is why they think Ford might not go that way. Mustang / Falcon / Lincoln will happen. Ford knows that Mustang needs a more modern architecture underneath it. The best way will be to update Falcon. Mulally knows the benefit of a strong brand and what it stands for. This is why Taurus was resurrected in the states and why it will again be midsized next time around. For the same reason, Falcon will be renewed as GRWD.
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Going back to the D2C Mustang platform for a minute, it started out as a heavily modified DEW floor pan with Focus type Front struts and a modified Control Blade rear end not unlike a powered version of the S170 Focus IRS. The decision to scrap the IRS and go to a 3 link SRA was unfortunate but deemed necessary at the time.
Virtual build software will allow engineers endless trial and error substitution of existing Mustang framing for Falcon modules. No doubt there would be some hurdles with the much shorter wheelbase and positioning of rear seats/fuel tank but surely those obstacles would not be insurmountable. Ten years ago, virtual build was not used as a front line tool but more to clean up semi finished designs, it's use on the 2010 Taurus enables 12 months to be cut of the design process, remember how Mulally ordered rework of the Taurus to get the looks right, that software enabled the changes to be done in a fraction of the time. I'm pretty confident that once the scoping of our Falcon is completed both it and the Mustang will fit under the engineering unbrella as will a long wheelbased luxury sedan......... |
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And just to make it clear guys, i'm not an engineer. I don't want to give the impression that I am.
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![]() Sorry you feel that way Falc'man, but I still think the article raised some interesting points. I guess time will tell (hopefully you're right).
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The entire story on the future of the Falcon is like a sine wave. Watch out, here comes another trough (don't shoot the messenger!).
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That's just good old Jez trying to defend his reputation, since it was crash tackled by Dowling, Gover and the rest.
Is anyone really surprised? Anyone for Chinese whispers? Lukeyson
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I'm not convinced either way...
I hope Gover is correct ! There are no quotes from Mullaly or Burela that support either Theory 100 %, and the quotes used by the media can be interpreted both in a pro or negative light as far as Falcon goes. I know that the Mondeo platform was being seriously considered a few years ago as a Falcon replacement. What the current plan is ? Only a few know.... I hope it means there will be : 1. A locally manufactured car. 2. A RWD Falcon. |
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................"The Falcon is dead"
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Unfortunately, the fact that the self confessed GMH lover is that way inclined, means his anti-falcon rhetoric could continue for a while yet. There were no quotes and an effectively circular reference. Quoting other stories and sources who have un-named sources themselves. Jez is not quoting Mulally or Burela directly and is in fact talking about the initial exchange. He has quite conveniently disregarded the clarification from Mullaly. That clarification is from Mulally himself. Quote:
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Confirming my butt!!!! He makes it sound as if Mulally confirmed, by word and intent, that "....yes, the Falcon will be built on the Taurus platform....", which NEVER happened. He is making a speculation based on a speculation. What ever happened to journalism? If journalists would have done this 10-15 years ago they would be fired for doing such an irresponsible thing. Steve
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