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when you cant build air you cant release the brakes, leaking air activates the brakes..
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Perhaps the leak meant the trailer (or/and even the tractor) brake system was always partially applied to the point that the drum pads were rapidly worn down to the metal and/or overheated and were thus ineffective.
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if it wasn't serous leak, alarm nor the brakes would have been affected.
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Lifetime sentence??? Wow, we really hate employers in this country, don't we? They don't even come close to contemplating that for violent assaults causing death.....
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None of that will come to fruition as most drivers will be too scared to speak up.
Its a cut throat industry with people lining up for driving jobs, so those currently in them will be hesitant to push the safety agenda with their employer for fear of losing their job. If the authorities in SA want to be serious about this then trucks should have mandatory testing every year. Putting this back on the driver via COR will not stop dodgy practices by owners, they'll just pass the buck and say they knew nothing and once you roll out of the driveway its all on the driver. My Nephew drove for a bloke who pressured him to drive a Mitsi tautliner with the brake warning alarm screaming for weeks before he put it in to get repaired, same owner had me drive his HR tautliner down the same piece of road that the above bloke was killed on with a leaking booster that i had to rev the guts out of at lights to keep air up to. My Wife works with the Cousin of the poor bugger in the above story, they tried to say he had a heart attack and crashed the truck. Truth is he gave his own life to save those stopped at the lights in front of him. |
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If a few more “so called” drivers grew a bigger set and actually stood up to some of these people, the problem would eventually go away. For every dodgy boss out there, there’s usually many drivers who either don’t have the balls or are too stupid to stand up to these people. I’m getting sick of these BS stories of “the boss wouldn’t fix the truck.” Well simple, if he won’t fix it, refuse to drive it. If this bloke in Adelaide knowingly drove the truck with defective brakes, he’s an idiot, and look at the price he paid. I’ve told many bosses over the decades where they could shove their truck and their jobs. It’s not that hard to take a stand, pity that there isn’t a few more around who will put their money where their bloody mouth is.
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19-06-2015, 08:23 PM | #256 | |||
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there would be more to the story but we will never know. this truck obviously had a known defect, as more than one driver testified, so you would think if you were driving that truck (apart from being an idiot), you would drive it according to its capabilities?? easy to criticize from the sidelines, but you wouldn't get to that area where he crashed without realising earlier that you had an issue with your brakes. its also a big 'dipper' so if traffic is banked up, you can see it from some distance back. regardless, i admit that those comments are speculation, and the driver did make the decision to crash himself rather than the innocent car drivers ahead. whether he was lacking in the proper awareness, who can say. |
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The other employees had complained about the truck and the poor bugger who died was filling in for the regular driver who had already complained about the truck and probably pulled a sickie to avoid driving it, but im sure you know more about it. |
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19-06-2015, 09:33 PM | #258 | |||
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There is no other down hill section between the depot and that section of road to find out any earlier, he was a passenger. I used to drive that stretch every day and nearly got caught out myself. Infact our depot at Cavan was a 5 minute drive from their depot so i know the whole route he would have taken, drove the same size truck and know exactly what he would have experienced in the lead up. The day the booster went on my truck i was heading past Flinders Medical centre on my way to Mclaren vale, rang my employer and was told to do the drop and bring it back. I chose the southern expressway to avoid lights etc. Last edited by BENT_8; 19-06-2015 at 09:41 PM. |
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I live close to a highway and I'd say like many others who've posted here.....I see it nearly every time I hit the highway. Always passed by trucks speeding! Often it's speeding up to make the next slope easier to climb. What does everyone think of the famous..."without trucks, Australia stops" line??? Ive got news for them..while still very important(because of efficiency), obviously....without most trades and services Australia stops What happens without police?..... What happens without doctors?.... What happens without plumbers?..... |
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And how do you think these services get their supplies........Taxi?
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Surely someone along the lines would have had to have serviced their trucks and noticed/reported on the issue when they worked on it?
I know that if I've worked on a customer's vehicle and I notice something thats additional to what I'm doing I always write it down and mention it. |
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And even 5 Kay's over is a huge amount for a loaded tuck. They are limited to 100 for a reason. They don't handle or brake well......and as covered in the quoted article.....lots of people die when things go wrong. And I never implied my opinion meant it was the 'majority' of trucks speed. Just my observation for where I live.(unlike the post that I quoted) And I also didn't suggest trucks aren't important(I clearly stated otherwise)..... mearly a query as to why truckies think they're so important they can act like they're the 'only' needed commodity in our society. Without police for eg.....the streets would be a riot in hrs. No doctors and people would start dropping faster then flies. Just food for thought really! |
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Either way, even if the work is out sourced, I'd imagine it wouldn't take much to 'make a deal'! I also found it weird that truckies were getting away with fines because they couldn't pin point who was driving the truck at the time. I thought all that was regulated and drivers had to do logbooks. Hence if the books wearnt filled......there's another fine....on top of the fine for speeding that should have no bearing on who's driving anyway! |
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The owner at the centre of the story weve been discussing had only taken control of the company recently. From all reports his 'mechanic' had flagged the brake issue but at the end of the day it comes down to how the owner of the business views safety and wether he has the capital to get the work done. We arent talking about Toll or Scotts here, this was a small operator with 20yr old trucks who by his own admission knows bugger all about how trucks function. |
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Compared to car drivers, Log Book fines are huge. I haven't been booked for one for years so not sure of the fine scale, but FULL NOISE may be able to help here.
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And that's an amazing video. Too bad all trucks can't stop as fast as cars tho. Should be mandatory that ALL vehicles can hit a benchmark. And I'd be interested in throwing some potholes, corners and some bumps on there.....like a real road and see how that Volvo pulls up!! But I'm still not sure I agree with your assessment of speeding trucks. A truck limited too 100 should not go over 100 ever. It's bad enough cars speeding but as mentioned...trucks dont stop or handle well at all. I wonder how much further an extra 5klms per hr would take a 40ton truck to stop. 10 metres?......20?...50?. Not good at all. |
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The understanding I have is that they start at around $750 ish per page for some BS they refer to as a minor breach. Then they have major and critical breaches that go straight to court. They also ground you on the side of the road for 24 hours. I’ve heard some horror stories of how big the fines can be but because I can’t confirm it, I’ll just say that they can be substantial, in the many thousands. There was some talk a while back about the NTC bringing in fines of around $180 ish for genuine typographical errors, however, I’m not 100% sure on this. I tend not to read a lot of the BS in this thread as there’s some who have “NFI” yet push their opinions and stupid ideas on us like they’ve been in the game for 30 years. Blah blah… I was in my car the other day and some clown in a truck overtook me on the four lane section of the Monash Freeway. I was outraged. I rang the police, my mum, I even rang Tracy Grimshaw at A Current Affair. Sure my speedo was pointing at 90 and it was a 100 zone but that’s not the point. He overtook me and I could have been killed. Lucky for this bloke that the nearest school zone was on Waverly Rd otherwise all of the kids at Salesian College would have been killed as well. Hopefully the police will do something about these terror trucks that travel at 100 in a 100 zone. Won’t someone think of the children? PS I’m still trying to find a transport company "ANY TRANSPORT COMPANY" that is willing to pay a huge fine just because they either don’t have the heart to forward it on or just can’t figure out who was towing their trailer when it went through a red light or speed camera. Can any of the experts here help me?
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