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22-08-2023, 12:56 PM | #1 | |||
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22-08-2023, 01:21 PM | #2 | ||
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106 v 100 km/h over a 1000km journey, for eg, makes a difference of 36 minutes (excluding any hold-ups along the way due to traffic, etc). Hardly earth shattering.
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22-08-2023, 01:45 PM | #3 | ||
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The speedo in the Kia is 4kms/h slow
I set the cruise to 100, 110 or whatever the posted limit is. I get tailgeted often, then they overtake in a flurry. A few kms later I catch up with them and they hare off again. I use 5.9l/100kms this way, travelling fuss and stress free. Stick to the limit and you won't be fined. |
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22-08-2023, 01:49 PM | #4 | ||
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That describes my work commute.
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When in traffic, I leave a gap in front. I look ahead to see what's happening. If lights are red further up, what's the point of attaching yourself to the car in front. Often cars will jump out from behind, tailgate in the next lane until passed and then jump in front, as though they have just got themselves to work that bit quicker. I just think, well done champ, you've gained 1 car length.
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22-08-2023, 02:05 PM | #6 | |||
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The problem in my scenario is people don't know how to merge properly, it goes three lanes into one. But suburban driving is a completely different kettle of fish compared to rural driving outside the metropolitan areas of our capital cities. There is absolutely no reason you should be doing less than the speed limit on highways and freeways, unless there's hazards like rain et al. |
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22-08-2023, 01:52 PM | #7 | |||
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To maintain an average of 106km/h across the entire journey (which includes crossing Adelaide CBD and inner suburbia to pop out the SE side), as well as knowing about the average speed cameras along the Dukes Highway in SA, how fast do you think I was moving on the back roads, the highway on the safe sides of the cameras and between all the little towns on the VIC side avoiding the Western Highway? If you drive between Melbourne and Adelaide on the Western Freeway/Western Highway you'd struggle to have an average speed of 70km/h, last time I took someone's advice to stick to the highway it took me 8.5 hours to get to the same destination because of road works and slow traffic. I've pretty much taken the **** out of the speed limit for 12 years and the one time I got caught was by the local police on my local roads - not one camera fine or low range speeding ticket. I've had one high range offence that cost my licence. I'm very dubious on the 'speed kills' mantra, I reckon the limits are way too low. There's no reason why the Tullamarine/Monash Freeway can't be 150km/h in the early hours of the morning when you have a five lane wide each direction freeway between 10 other cars. Something I noticed was NSW drivers move way quicker on their freeways than VIC ones do, driving around Sydney is an absolute dream in comparison to Melbourne, if you don't start moving the moment the light turns Green in Sydney you got five people on the horn and that's the way it should be. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 22-08-2023 at 02:02 PM. |
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I don't get the argument though. If you'd averaged 150km/h across that same trip, you could have done it in 4h 52m. Could've saved yourself another 2 hours! Maybe I should have said, 106 v 100 km/h average over a 1000km journey, for eg, makes a difference of 36 minutes (excluding any hold-ups along the way due to traffic, etc). Hardly earth shattering. Is that better? Quote:
Life's short, Franco. As you get older I'm pretty sure you'll come to appreciate what some of us 'oldies' appreciate: take the time to smell the roses. Or, as per my signature, life's a journey, not a destination. Quote:
Now, I'm not suggesting for a second that your actions are dangerous. Just because you've got away with it for so long (apart from the recent gotcha) doesn't mean you'll continue to get away with it. In the safety world, particularly aviation, it's called normalisation of deviance. That is exactly what is happening here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_deviance
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22-08-2023, 02:42 PM | #9 | |||
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I'm quite interested in that link to normalisation of deviance, I haven't heard of that before and it makes sense (seems to be associated with aviation). |
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22-08-2023, 02:51 PM | #10 | ||||
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To bring it back to topic (somewhat), this example relates to mobile phone usage in vehicles and the normalisation thereof: Quote:
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22-08-2023, 03:01 PM | #11 | |||
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The phone usage thing is interesting, they tell you that its a big distraction and you can't use your phone while driving, however new cars have massive screens in them with things you can fiddle with flat out. The fines and demerit points are also priced in a way that its not enough to discourage you to use your phone while driving, if they made it four figures and 10 points, its a bit too expensive for the average motorist. I look at our speeding fines, and 10-24 over carries the same fine, its easily the best value speeding offence in terms of demerit points and fine value, on a clean licence you can get done three times, still keep your licence and all in be under $1500, If you're going to risk the fine for 10 over, you might as well as do 24 over (excl 110 zones), you're not going to get discretion from Victoria Police anyway on the 10 over. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 22-08-2023 at 03:06 PM. |
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22-08-2023, 02:50 PM | #12 | |||
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The facebookers cant drive that fast and not crash. The texters cant drive that fast and not crash. And the over 75 s cant drive that fast and not crash. In Qld they are flat out driving 10 kms under the freeway limit. Few drive over the limit. |
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22-08-2023, 01:26 PM | #13 | |||
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So what, you saved an hour. It's not that big a deal in the scheme of things. It's in human nature to give the 2 finger salute to authority.
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27-08-2023, 12:07 PM | #14 | ||
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We used to regularly do the Adelaide/Sydney run over the Hay Plain. Usually over 2 days, but occasionally in 1. Adding 10-15kph to your average speed makes a huge difference. More alert, but more importantly, more likely to finish that day's driving during daylight hours, and dusk is a terribly unsafe time to drive (animals, visibility, circadian rhythm/fatigue).
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27-08-2023, 12:16 PM | #15 | |||
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You would think so, but unfortunately Dan the dictator has seen our roads in Victoria in such disrepair is beyond the joke, I'm talking of our major roads not our secondary roads.
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27-08-2023, 07:03 PM | #17 | |||
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Apparently regional VIC needs $1B in maintenance on its rural highways - there was $380M we just threw down the toilet a few weeks ago which could have bought a few repairs. Though I think mid north coast of NSW (Taree region) takes the cake for Australia's worst roads, its like driving on the surface of the moon up there, you need one of Vlad's T72 tanks to navigate that joint. |
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