Malaysian Airways Flight 370

[ltd]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Just curios how one IDs a standard part to a mass manufacturer product?

Do they use dat dots or some kind of ID process that links it to that exact plane?

All serviceable parts have a unique serial number to keep track of each part. Often parts are interchanged on aircraft depending on times taken to overhaul each part and how that aligns with an aircrafts overhaul schedule.

For example, engines are routinely changed according to lifespan of various components, FOD, vibration etc. Each blade in each engine has a serial number and is managed as to total time, weight, whether it's been damaged and blended etc. As you can imagine, the components are so expensive it pays to get the maximum allowable time out of each part. In a GE90, there are over 1200 blades in the compressor alone, as many stators and in the hot section, over 500 air cooled blades and nozzles (shorter lifespan).
So, as everything in aviation costs a bajillion times more than automotive, everything has a serial number which is in a huge database.

If they can find more details inside the flaperon (as the ID plate was missing), then they'll be able to conclusively identify the part.
There are only 2 other 777's where the remains are not known - EgyptAir which had a fire in the cockpit and Asiana Airlines where they slapped the seawall in SFO. Both have most likely been recycled, and there's no reason as to why they would end up in the ocean, but these other aircraft need to be ruled out.

[Madaya]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-0...-mh370/6675784
Roll on the tin hat brigade.
Here we have solid proof. For some unexplained reason, 370 ended up in the Southern Indian Ocean.

[Polyal]

I dont know about you guys but I got angry just listening to the Malaysian Airlines CEO (I think it was him) on the radio this morning. The tone used made it out like they actually did something or that they had found the plane.

He thanked everyone for their help...but missed one person...Mother Nature!

[XByoot]

Originally Posted by Polyal

I dont know about you guys but I got angry just listening to the Malaysian Airlines CEO (I think it was him) on the radio this morning. The tone used made it out like they actually did something or that they had found the plane.

He thanked everyone for their help...but missed one person...Mother Nature!

I'll be the first to admit I haven't been following the events closely,but wasn't it found during the investigation that the batteries in the ELB ( locator beacon) were out of date?? IF this is the case...sure it didn't cause the loss but it sure didn't help with the search....I would have thought the CEO would still have the crumbs of the humble pie he had to eat on his face after that failure of his companies maintenance system,but typical of these people I guess they can " move on"
Anyways,we all know it's parked at Diego Garcia

[Mesa]

Diego Garcia?? Got a link??
My auntie telepathically messaged me via our foil hats that her second cousin twice removed-father in laws-brothers third neighbor read on the internet that because MH370 had so many Chinese on board it was hijacked and landed at one of the Chinese owned mines in WA, buried and the passengers and crew are now slaves in the mines!!! It must be true!! It was on the internet!!!

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Madaya

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-0...-mh370/6675784
Roll on the tin hat brigade.
Here we have solid proof. For some unexplained reason, 370 ended up in the Southern Indian Ocean.

Not quite "solid proof" yet, unfortunately.

Extract taken from above article:

"We now have physical evidence that, as I announced on 24th March last year, flight MH370 tragically ended in the southern Indian Ocean."

Shortly after Mr Najib's announcement, a French prosecutor said there was a "very high probability" the wreckage was from MH370 but the finding still needed to be confirmed.

My understanding, from reading various news articles, is that the French authorities have not announced their findings as of yet. I also understand that an Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) expert has been requested by the French investigation bureau (BEA) to assist in the analysis of the flaperon, and he only departed Australia this week.

Another article indicated that the French government are conducting a legal investigation of the accident (as a result of French nationals being aboard the ill-fated flight) and that the official announcement of the BEA's findings may be delayed until the legal investigation is concluded.

Whilst I have no doubt in mind the Malaysian government announcement will be confirmed by the BEA at some point in time, I still think the Malaysian government have jumped the gun a little......

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by superpursuit05

Diego Garcia?? Got a link??
My auntie telepathically messaged me via our foil hats that her second cousin twice removed-father in laws-brothers third neighbor read on the internet that because MH370 had so many Chinese on board it was hijacked and landed at one of the Chinese owned mines in WA, buried and the passengers and crew are now slaves in the mines!!! It must be true!! It was on the internet!!!

It wasn't on the internet...but it is now!

JP

[Mainforcepatrol]

Engines are changed more as a result of egt margin and specific fuel consumption rather than time limited components these days.

[iCat]

So why is it seeming a problem identifying the part as being from a particular plane? Why so long, and no real explanation for the delay? Surely the manufacturer should know their aircraft?

[Moby Vic]

Originally Posted by iCat

So why is it seeming a problem identifying the part as being from a particular plane? Why so long, and no real explanation for the delay? Surely the manufacturer should know their aircraft?

Not every part is numbered by the particular aircraft, just as not every part of your car has the VIN on it.

A 777 flaperon is a 777 flaperon just as an intake manifold is an intake manifold.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by iCat

So why is it seeming a problem identifying the part as being from a particular plane? Why so long, and no real explanation for the delay? Surely the manufacturer should know their aircraft?

From what I understand the ID tags are missing so perhaps they are forensically investigating the hardware ie matching paint composition, the barnacles, tide and current movements and the amount of time it has been floating by measuring paint degradation from sun and water.

All this takes far longer than just reading a bunch of numbers and cross referencing. This is just my hunch as to the delay.

[TRAU BLAU]

Looks like another suicide pilot thing!Who can you trust if you can't trust an airline pilot?Scary.....

[Tonz]

Hells teeth, if these parts are not from MH370 what plane is flying around with them issing and no one has noticed.

[Bobman]

It was mentioned that the build stamp on the flaperon was consistent with that of the aircraft's time of manufacture (2002).

That's one way of knowing if your car has had a cluster swap, by looking at the build date sticker on it.

[cheap]

The man who never was becomes the plane that never was.

Anyone who remembers the movie will know what I mean.

[mik]

i don't know if it will make much difference even if it was a part of the plane, there is still an awful lot of water between Kuala Lumpur and reunion island, and apparently it is very deep .

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by mik

i don't know if it will make much difference even if it was a part of the plane, there is still an awful lot of water between Kuala Lumpur and reunion island, and apparently it is very deep .

Nearby to Mauritius in the same ocean, the 1987 crash of a South African Airways Boeing 747 still holds record of the deepest successful salvage, even with AF447 at 4900 metres (over 16,000 feet), to recover one of the boxes. The other was never recovered.

I think there's a good chance this plane will be found, although who knows when. Just pure luck that the flaperon washed up and hopefully this instills better morale for the current search teams.

[cram_it_frog]

bobman yes a very small step forward but a long way to the end

but it gives some positive thoughts that yes they are looking in the right places

even if we find the air craft it may take a long time to get all the aircraft recovered as some one just said this is deep deep water not too easy to recover thing s

[csv8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efMJ...ature=youtu.be
MH370 landed in southern China....

[MITCHAY]

I just hope if they find it they are able to recover data to understand what happened. We all know it crashed just where and why.

It is still possible there may be mechanical factors although from what we understand so far it is almost certain to be a deliberate action.

[Harrison]

We all know it crashed ???

Ahh... how ?

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Harrison

We all know it crashed ???

Ahh... how ?

You are technically correct but when all rational thinking is applied it crashed.

Do you honestly believe it anywhere near plausible you can make nearly 250 people just disappear?

And if so does it not perplex you if that were the case no ransom whatsoever has been made at all? Why else land a plane and keep them alive?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Harrison

We all know it crashed ???

Ahh... how ?

Tin . . .

Foil . . .

Hat . . .

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

The best quote I've heard, in relation to the search for the ill-fated MH370 plane, was that they will find the needle in the haystack.......they just need to locate the haystack first.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

Tin . . .

Foil . . .

Hat . . .

"Know" is a big word.

In reality we 'know' bugger all about anything.

Speculation, or even information, is not knowledge.


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[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Harrison

Information is not knowledge.

Well it can depend where you're getting that information from and how you process it. Another site run by a complete whack-job that is still convinced the Lunar landings were staged?

Just imagine the stink behind this if it was an American carrier. It would be the Holy Grail to conspiracy theorists. It would make 9/11 look like Bambi.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Just imagine the stink behind this if it was an American carrier. It would be the Holy Grail to conspiracy theorists. It would make 9/11 look like Bambi.

Oh, I don't know, I think the disappearance of MH370 has brought out some pretty darn good theories.....

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Do you honestly believe it anywhere near plausible you can make nearly 250 people just disappear?

And if so does it not perplex you if that were the case no ransom whatsoever has been made at all? Why else land a plane and keep them alive?

C'mon MITCHAY, we've all heard the real reasons why MH370 disappeared: the US government wanted to steal away the Chinese cloaking technology gurus aboard the flight, so stole the whole aircraft

.......or......

a stolen US missile was secreted aboard the flight by islamic state militant sympathisers and the US wanted it back, so they used some super-duper secret powers they have where they can remotely take control of any aircraft in the world and do whatever they want with it and all the passengers aboard (slavery most likely, I would think......)

You guys really need to open up your minds a little more

Craig H

[Thornie]

Originally Posted by psychobimbo

The best quote I've heard, in relation to the search for the ill-fated MH370 plane, was that they will find the needle in the haystack.......they just need to locate the haystack first.

And the haystack they're trying to find is the needle.

[cram_it_frog]

Totally amazing March 8 is 2 years since the sad event and still no real answers

up to this point

some debry found washed ashore

some reports of the pilot found not sure if they are true

The man pictured in the photo is actually Aung My Oo, a Myanmar migrant worker who was in hospital after being attacked in 2013. Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 vanished on March 8 2014 during a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

so they were not true



millions of dollars have been spent

I do feel for the family's

[MercurySilver]

notice how those that say it might be somewhere else is a tin hat wearer conspiracy theorist
yet others say it obviously crashed and that apparently seems the most logical explanaiton

lol

maybe it crashed and not one bit of flotsam has been found
maybe it was shot down
maybe it was hijacked
maybe the whole plane was abducted by a giant mother ship