Ambitious China - Page 13

T3rminator · 07-12-2020, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FTE217

cheeez another strange response.
No agenda on my part just trying to see some clairty.
Hissy point and getting over it - how do you read that, baffling.
Gawd what a last sentence, smugness is not a endearing attribute the way I'm reading that.
Wish I could see it another way.

Well ok, it is clear my views on this thread has drawn out some insecurities in a few, and given how emotional the topic is to some, I'll end my contribution on a few notes.

The difference between me and some here is that I don't see China as an enemy. They are a threat in a lot of areas, but they also present a lot of opportunities in others. We have been trading with them for nearly 50 years. We also hold partnerships in a lot of science, education and R&D activities, that benefits both countries.

I also think the relationship management has been ballzed up majorly, and there is no one in the current gov who has the knowledge, skill or experience to deal with it. I am for team Australia, and I fear Australia's prosperity, a major part of national security, is being jeapordised.

Finally, I don't see this as black and white, or a zero sum game. There is a balance to be had. There are risks and we need to manage those risks. That's it.

**FTE217** · 07-12-2020, 04:58 PM

now people who ask for some clarity is assumed insecure - seriously I'm lost with your approach and how you read peoples comments.

I don't see everyone's pov is that they are THE enemy per say but a buisiness partner you cannot trust for the proof is in the pudding for all to see over many many years.
In fact from my reading elsewhere the main reason for Scomo's reaction to the cartoon or whatever people wish to call it today, after a number of years he has been involved pre PM he had a gut full of their behaviour, sure maybe it was premature but you know, even a PM can react in haste but its not his fault or reason where we are today with them re relations, its been years of tooing and froing/back stabbing and yes we're guilty as well.
More so by individuals putting us in compramising situations like Dastyari types for eg.

I've mentioned before good relationeship is a win win, just as you quote, opportunities both sides, how well do you read people's pov's ? not much it seems.
All you mention is in part what I have quoted before, much to prosper both sides, maybe you don't understand or read and digest what one says who knows.

Ballzed up - both are guilty of that my friend not our side alone.
All Govs play dirty pool but they take the cake ! , I expect our Gov to stand up for US, they portray to the world we're the guilty party of the unrest, nothing last's forever but ties won't be cut completely, change is healthy, we cannot be dictated to (and let them influence our Gov so much past to present) like they are portraying us as the bad guys,fear is being insecure, you must feel as such I don't.

Your welcome.

Itsme · 08-12-2020, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FTE217

now people who ask for some clarity is assumed insecure - seriously I'm lost with your approach and how you read peoples comments.

You are not the only one lost with these comments as I have noticed some peoples comments are bit patronizing at times, hence the reason why I have not bothered to debate any further in this and some other topics.
Cheers

Bossxr8 · 08-12-2020, 02:49 PM

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...hina-c-1721923

So now these pricks are saying australian meat caused the coronavirus. What a bunch of utter clowns.

But then again, they believe torturing an animal before you eat it makes it taste better

Itsme · 08-12-2020, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...hina-c-1721923

So now these pricks are saying australian meat caused the coronavirus. What a bunch of utter clowns.

But then again, they believe torturing an animal before you eat it makes it taste better

I thought China also accused the USA of this tactic early in the Covid19 pandemic.

marty351 · 08-12-2020, 03:55 PM

We should support our dairy farmers even more; triple the price of infant formula.

burnz · 08-12-2020, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by marty351

We should support our dairy farmers even more; triple the price of infant formula.

only if you can prove you have an infant resident of australia..
get ride of those that hang out in front of woolie. coles, aldi,,,

marty351 · 08-12-2020, 05:29 PM

*not applicable to Australian residents.
*export duty will apply.

CoupeKing · 08-12-2020, 05:43 PM

wodahs · 08-12-2020, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

wrong thread Coupe , the US election one is closed
and all thru that even tho it was about the US elections
it was all bout trump and how they couldnt work with him couldnt be freinds !
at the end the did say we could be friends with Biden not we are or we control as per the title of the youtube clip
so well off track and in a thread thats not bout US politics but youll keep pulling these long strings of conspiracy

CyberWasp · 08-12-2020, 10:15 PM

Is it possible to reclaim all the assets they own in this country?

**FairmontGS** · 08-12-2020, 10:20 PM

Victoria's Belt and Road deal could go within months as federal bill passes

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...08-p56lnj.html

LG17 · 09-12-2020, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Is it possible to reclaim all the assets they own in this country?

Yes it is. It's a matter of parliament introducing the right legislation.

superyob · 09-12-2020, 10:33 AM

Our parliament is made up of anti Australian, spineless fright bats. The only legislation they will introduce are that which their globalist overlords pay them to introduce...

Oh that nasty superyob is at it again. Tin foil hat wearer he is. Banjo player extroadinaire...

Work Horse · 09-12-2020, 11:29 AM

An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.

More; lily livered, appeasement, apologist dribble from Work Horse. Typical; PC, lefty, Beta male weakness that is ruining our country.

See what I did there.....

asagaai · 09-12-2020, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LG17

Yes it is. It's a matter of parliament introducing the right legislation.

We need a man with a big pen and habit of signing Executive Orders with a flourish and a big cheesy grin....

**Fordman1** · 09-12-2020, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by asagaai

We need a man with a big pen and habit of signing Executive Orders with a flourish and a big cheesy grin....

A Malignant Narcissist ?

Bossxr8 · 09-12-2020, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.

More; lily livered, appeasement, apologist dribble from Work Horse. Typical; PC, lefty, Beta male weakness that is ruining our country.

See what I did there.....

It can't all be one way eye removals though

Otherwise you won't see the shady enemy coming at you.

marty351 · 09-12-2020, 03:18 PM

Once upon a time, you went to university to get an education;

Now you go to university to get an indoctrination.

**Polyal** · 10-12-2020, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by marty351

Once upon a time, you went to university to get an education;

Now you go to university to get an indoctrination.

Where does that even com from? Can you provide some examples?

Are you taking about the Chinese students learning how to play the drinking game Kings?

kaniSS · 10-12-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...hina-c-1721923

So now these pricks are saying australian meat caused the coronavirus. What a bunch of utter clowns.

But then again, they believe torturing an animal before you eat it makes it taste better

They can say what ever they want, no one believes them anyway.

The whole world has woken up to their BS.

five 7 · 10-12-2020, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Where does that even com from? Can you provide some examples?

Are you taking about the Chinese students learning how to play the drinking game Kings?

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awrg....s9DM_AV0LZjE-

superyob · 10-12-2020, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by marty351

Once upon a time, you went to university to get an education;

Now you go to university to get an indoctrination.

Totally true. The anti-straight white male rhetoric, along with the support of other abominations was well and truly entrenched long before I went to uni in 2001. We are now experiencing the results of this at a rapidly escalating rate...

Shut up superyob, you intolerant bigot...

Bossxr8 · 10-12-2020, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by marty351

Once upon a time, you went to university to get an education;

Now you go to university to get an indoctrination.

The stuff you hear coming out of US Colleges is almost mind blowing for how insanely left they are.

I do wonder what our universities are really like though. Would not be surprised to see them heading the same way.

**Polyal** · 10-12-2020, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by five 7

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awrg....s9DM_AV0LZjE-

So now MSM is OK?

Guys there is no brain washing going on at uni's, and if those with the time to wave cards around are doing it for the attention or their degrees are obviously not keeping them busy enough.

superyob · 10-12-2020, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The stuff you hear coming out of US Colleges is almost mind blowing for how insanely left they are.

I do wonder what our universities are really like though. Would not be surprised to see them heading the same way.

They are already there...

Bossxr8 · 10-12-2020, 02:55 PM

It's happening right under the wests noses, and many people are still in denial that the chinese aren't infiltrating governments left right and centre to influence government decisions.

https://www.revolver.news/2020/12/ch...ol-of-america/

The chinese are basically laughing about it they are so brazen. Guys like former Labor politician Sam Dastyari prove they can be bribed and influenced. Then you have democrat politicians like this guy.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/09...3QRtIo.twitter

Why do you think the elites and the msn went after Trump so hard? He was the one guy who wouldn't bend the knee to the chinese.

Then you have us colleges being under chinese influence. I have no doubt it's happening here too, with the amount of chinese students being sent to our universities.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pom...lleges-beijing

**Polyal** · 10-12-2020, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It's happening right under the wests noses, and many people are still in denial that the chinese aren't infiltrating governments left right and centre to influence government decisions.

https://www.revolver.news/2020/12/ch...ol-of-america/

The chinese are basically laughing about it they are so brazen. Guys like former Labor politician Sam Dastyari prove they can be bribed and influenced. Then you have democrat politicians like this guy.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/09...3QRtIo.twitter

Why do you think the elites and the msn went after Trump so hard? He was the one guy who wouldn't bend the knee to the chinese.

This has been going on for a long time, and not just with the Chinese...as if Trump is clean.

Its the nature of the beast, you just have to ensure compliance and audits etc pick things up.

Bossxr8 · 10-12-2020, 03:34 PM

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the...probe-bolsters

Criminal probe launched into Hunter Bidens chinese associations. Been going on for a while, but of course the msn never mentioned it till after the election.

**Polyal** · 10-12-2020, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the...probe-bolsters

Criminal probe launched into Hunter Bidens chinese associations. Been going on for a while, but of course the msn never mentioned it till after the election.

And Trump is clean?