Libs say if elected will make Geelong Freeway a 110 zone!

[EDManual]

Thats official now!

Have been talking about it, now its been made an official promise.

They also keep talking about putting the tolerence up to 10% again, so we can legally do 121 on this highway.

Brax's kronies say "that 121 on that road is a licence to kill!"

Many people slow down for the speed cameras, then speed up again anyway.

He has been on the road to geelong a bit lately.

OPPOSITION Leader Robert Doyle says the speed limit on sections of the
Geelong Road should be increased to 110 km/h.

"When I travel along that road, I think to myself, 'I've travelled on
the Hume (Freeway) and the Calder (Freeway) at 110 km/h and they are
nowhere near the quality or the safety of the Geelong Road', so I don't
understand the argument for it not being 110 km/h in some sections," he
said.

"If we only built a road that was capable of 100 km/h then we
short-changed Geelong. If we built a road that was capable of 110 km/h, why
aren't we driving at 110 km/h?"

[4.9 EF Futura]

Libs in SA promised to raise a lot of streets from 50 back to 60. Lol, they lost worst than usual but id love to see some of the roads back at 60...

[chevypower]

I would have more chance of falling asleep at the wheel at 99km/h under Bracks' regime than cruising at 120km/h under common sense law... I know who i am voting for!

[Redrum]

I will be voting for Mr Doyle!!

[Mark351]

It was definitely built to be a 110kph road.

[Black XR6]

Its not what the liberals promise that worries me, its what they dont mention until they are elected.

[LTDHO]

All freeways should be 110 minimum!

Police should target those who don't keep left and drive at 90 in the right lane, making us brake the law by passing on the left!

Sooner the speed limit is increased, the less time it will take to get to you desination and your are happier.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

All freeways should be 110 minimum!

Police should target those who don't keep left and drive at 90 in the right lane, making us brake the law by passing on the left!

Sooner the speed limit is increased, the less time it will take to get to you desination and your are happier.

I agree 100%

[XRchic]

I live in SA but I am tempted to change my enrolment to vote, so that my address is in Victoria, and therefore register to vote in Vic, just so that I could vote Bracks out. I would say that he is one of the most hated politicians in Australia, and in the land of tall poppy cutters and politically ignorant voters, that is saying something!

His approach to road fatalities and road safety is digusting and he and his government have totally lost focus of the fact they are trying to save lives, but seem to prefer to focus on revenue raising, quite blatantly, and justify it with lame reasoning about how speed cameras save lives... all the while, the roads in country Vic are pretty bad, and while young drivers need driver training courses... duh!

As for the Geelong Road, I have driven on it many times and I dont think I have ever seen a highway which is more suited to 110kmh+ in all of Australia (and even some other countries where the limits are much higher and the roads much poorer). Some parts of the Hume are disgraceful in condition, but it is 110kmh along a lot of it! Many SA country roads are too narrow, windy and steep and yet are set at inappropriately too high speed limits in my opinion.

The Geelong Road is long, with too many lanes either side to count, it is straight, has great visability, there are no residential areas along the sides, or even that much of anything except for the odd petrol station or exit. In fact, it is so empty, it is boring, I dont see how anyone is more likely to have an accident along it, than any other road... I think even the worst driver, at night, could easily manage 120kmh along it.

I dont even think that this issue is about party politics at all, I think it is about Victoria holding the record for having the Premier with the lowest IQ ever recorded in a politician, Labor or Liberal!

I hope you Vics vote the bugger out, and his fellow idiots, so that I can travel over to Vic again without losing my licence for driving at speeds which are actually legal (and therefore safe?) in my own state!

Jac

[XA-Coupe]

ok.. I have gone through this thread deleting the political 'debate' not relevant to automotive subjects.

The next person who drags it off topic with that can have a few days to think about it. We are tolerant with political debate only as long as it is relevant to this forum. Anything else is not tolerated.

[Polyal]

Yeah the libs are so in.....that freeway is the best in Victoria IMO and its only 100. The calder is a bit of a shocker, and the hume is nothing flash.

But who said they slow down for the camera then speed up? I thought they were time dependant not just speed at a point?

That freeway is insane, everone drives so close now, all lanes are full, no flow at all.

[Polyal]

oh and just to add another opinion.

I think that if they 10% rule comes back, it should not be in association with the 110 area's, I know it complicates it a little, but you have to draw the line somewhere, and while its only another 10kph, there are some cars that I would not like to see doing 120kph thats for sure.

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

All freeways should be 110 minimum!

Police should target those who don't keep left and drive at 90 in the right lane, making us brake the law by passing on the left!

Sooner the speed limit is increased, the less time it will take to get to you desination and your are happier.

Well said.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

All freeways should be 110 minimum!

Police should target those who don't keep left and drive at 90 in the right lane, making us brake the law by passing on the left!

Sooner the speed limit is increased, the less time it will take to get to you desination and your are happier.

Freeways can tolerate speeds up to 130 km/hr during the day in dry conditions. Most of western Europe with these types of roads are speed limited to 130km/hr. 110km/hr is not enough.

FF

[zetec]

There was ИИИИ all chance I was voting for Ballsacksy anyway, so Doyle's promises are just bonuses!!!

[EBII Fairmont]

I don't see Doyle getting in for just raising a certain road to 110km and giving us our 10% tolerance back. He needs to start doing a bit more. He needs to hurt bracks where it hurts most.

But I still fear that the state will vote bracks in once again. The opposition in realistical fact are not that great, and therefore a lot of people keep the person who is there already.

Why can't we have someone who knows how to keep the people happy and make the right decisions for us, and not for themselves:jab:?

[INJECTED_250]

A simple speed limit change wont get doyle in... He would need to make it an open limit for me to vote liberal.... Even then i wouldnt :> . ITs just a cheap grab at getting some votes, and even if he did get in, im sure like most poli's they will come up with some b/s reason why it carnt be done. Sure the road can take 110 easy, and if they did change it back to 10% tolerance it would be good. But if u dont speed u dont get caught

[12]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

All freeways should be 110 minimum!

Police should target those who don't keep left and drive at 90 in the right lane, making us brake the law by passing on the left!

Sooner the speed limit is increased, the less time it will take to get to you desination and your are happier.

: So true. Well put LTDHO.

[Smoked]

The geelong road would be capable of 100km/h easily. Most roads are designed for 90%, which means if limited to 100 km., tne road is capable of 110.

[Polyal]

Granted Doyle is just a small d|ck as Bracksy, but his not as bad, and its more about the party than the person.

When Bracksy called it "his" commonwealth games I was appauled.

[xfalconz]

Here in NSW as with all states there are perfectly good freeways with unexpected limit reductions from 110 to 90 for no apparant reason.
As said before why isnt there a uniform speed on these roads, are they deemed to be unsafe in certain parts so the limit is reduced to 90.
If this is the case why is the freeway not upgraded in these areas to make it safe for 110.
There is strech of road on the F3 freeway, 3 lanes and resurfaced, the best part of the freeway but with a sweeping corner. Can do 110 no prob but the limit drops to 90 and the police sit out of sight past the corner..

[XRated]

That stupid Freeway. I got done three times in about five days - 4km/h over, 6km/h and one I deserve 14km/h. 500 bucks for you right there, Bracksy, you cretin. Show me how it is saving lives, because it bloody well isn't.

[xfalconz]

Originally Posted by XRated

That stupid Freeway. I got done three times in about five days - 4km/h over, 6km/h and one I deserve 14km/h. 500 bucks for you right there, Bracksy, you cretin. Show me how it is saving lives, because it bloody well isn't.

Getting booked for 4/6 Kmh is f-----d up.
Youd think there would be some allowance for error in thier equipment to prevent such dodgy so called offences.
Anyway politicians always jump on the 'speed cameras save lives bandwagon' as a front for revenue creation.

[ED Classic]

Building a road so good then keeping it at 100kmh and slapping Cameras all over it is a joke.
Tolls on Scoresby was not neccesary, the Federal Government was contributing 500 million {up front!} for it before Bracks put tolls on it.
All residential Streets down to a crawling 50 kmh, Not just Scool zones which I agree with.
Shopping Strips on Main Roads down to 40kmh {Going in reverse at 40}.
Cameras On Westgate. Fines up every year with Inflation {I wish my wages went up enough to cover petrol let alone any left for a fine and food for me and my family!}.
Registration up every year with CPI {Again less food for me and my family, and why is it going up? I thought there were less accidents and deaths with all the Cameras Stevie?}
Pensioners Now pay double the Rego they used to. Ok so I dont beleive in having anymore 80 year olds on the road than we need to but there are plenty of good 60 year old drivers and lets face it most of us will be there one day if our parents arent already.
Motorbike Regos Now with the levy..You see it's all money Steve.

The latest Propoganda?? Steve Bracks pretends to match Doyles pre election Speed Camera policy by listing the locations of cameras. Atleast for the Naive which isnt me! All it is is a list with about 30 Streets under each suburb and lets face it we know where they are in our area already and you cannot study areas you dont know. Clear propoganda and if you can remember all the Cameras in your city from this list then you should have a masters in medicine degree at the minimum.

[Jeeepers]

Originally Posted by EDManual

Thats official now!

Have been talking about it, now its been made an official promise.

They also keep talking about putting the tolerence up to 10% again, so we can legally do 121 on this highway.

Brax's kronies say "that 121 on that road is a licence to kill!"

Many people slow down for the speed cameras, then speed up again anyway.

He has been on the road to geelong a bit lately.

OPPOSITION Leader Robert Doyle says the speed limit on sections of the
Geelong Road should be increased to 110 km/h.

"When I travel along that road, I think to myself, 'I've travelled on
the Hume (Freeway) and the Calder (Freeway) at 110 km/h and they are
nowhere near the quality or the safety of the Geelong Road', so I don't
understand the argument for it not being 110 km/h in some sections," he
said.

"If we only built a road that was capable of 100 km/h then we
short-changed Geelong. If we built a road that was capable of 110 km/h, why
aren't we driving at 110 km/h?"

A political promise never swayed me in a ballot. If had a dollar for every broken promise, I could have a phoon for each day of the week... :hihi:

[Jeeepers]

Originally Posted by xfalconz

Getting booked for 4/6 Kmh is f-----d up.
Youd think there would be some allowance for error in thier equipment to prevent such dodgy so called offences.
Anyway politicians always jump on the 'speed cameras save lives bandwagon' as a front for revenue creation.

Bracksy dropped the leeway from 10% to 3%, and yet no Automotive Manufacturer (that I know of) will guarantee more than 95% accuracy from a speedometer. But it was for road safety, not revenue... Hahahahahahah!!! :

[LTDHO]

I've never agreed with so much before....

I do think the roads will be a safer place if it was looked at from a different perspective.

If only the government did too!

[XRated]

Originally Posted by xfalconz

Getting booked for 4/6 Kmh is f-----d up.
Youd think there would be some allowance for error in thier equipment to prevent such dodgy so called offences.
Anyway politicians always jump on the 'speed cameras save lives bandwagon' as a front for revenue creation.

Yeah tell me about it. It didn't help that I had changed my gearbox and hence the correct speedo wasn't fitted hence read out a tiny bit. I should've known, but they don't give a stuff and won't change anything.

The sooner Bracksy's out, the better.

[xfalconz]

Originally Posted by XRated

Yeah tell me about it. It didn't help that I had changed my gearbox and hence the correct speedo wasn't fitted hence read out a tiny bit. I should've known, but they don't give a stuff and won't change anything.

The sooner Bracksy's out, the better.

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Do you think a government change will remove cameras in Victoria?
Too much of a money maker may be..

[XRchic]

Originally Posted by xfalconz

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Do you think a government change will remove cameras in Victoria?
Too much of a money maker may be..

Yeah, that is a fair point. I dont think any govt will remove the cameras... as hard to get rid of as pokies Id say...another evil revenue raiser...wont go there.

However, if the tolerances were increased from 3% to 10% (or, as in SA, 10% + 3kmh, apparently), and some speed limits increased on certain roads in Vic (ie Geelong Road to 110 kmh), then surely that would be an improvement since it would reduce the risk of being snapped by the cameras...

Re the accuracy, well I have tested the cameras, sort of, in Vic. I have a Navman GPS. It gives you a speed of travel from a satellite, which is accurate to the tenth of a kmh, apparently. I was doing 100kmh according to the GPS and went though one of those advisory speed limit things just near Ballarat. I was sitting next to my Dad in the other lane, doing exactly the same speed (well close enough, we were side by side for a few km). The advisory thing showed me as doing 105, while my speedo said I was doing 98!!! It also said my Dad was doing 109!!!! I hope the cameras are more accurate than those things, but I thought they used the same technology to measure the speed... its quite scary. And to think I have lost half of my points in Vic for doing speeds under 110kmh...