crow cam

Baboon_AU · 05-08-2006, 02:39 PM

hey guys, this morning i went down to coventrys and ordered the crow cam 2232522 but they couldn't tell me how much it was until monday due to the supplier not being open. do any of you know how much it is??
I think AUII_SE_UTE has one in his ute?

cheers for any info guys

jonbays · 05-08-2006, 07:43 PM

This is a high torque cam for a stock motor right!

Baboon_AU · 06-08-2006, 12:15 PM

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This is a high torque cam for a stock motor right!

yes that is right, why is that?

jonbays · 06-08-2006, 08:10 PM

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yes that is right, why is that?

Just wanted to be sure you had the right expectations from that cam profile thats all.

Sleeperau · 05-08-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baboon_AU

hey guys, this morning i went down to coventrys and ordered the crow cam 2232522 but they couldn't tell me how much it was until monday due to the supplier not being open. do any of you know how much it is??
I think AUII_SE_UTE has one in his ute?

cheers for any info guys

I have not heard of anyone making great power with a crow cam in an I6, maybe I'm wrong & somebody correct me but.....

hamo · 23-08-2006, 06:23 PM

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I have not heard of anyone making great power with a crow cam in an I6, maybe I'm wrong & somebody correct me but.....

Nothing wrong with a Crow Cam make sure you select the right one.
Bigger isnt always better.

Baboon_AU · 06-08-2006, 08:45 PM

its completely stock. i have a CAI and pacemakers with 2.5 inch exhuast and after i get my cam i am assembling cylinderheads at work so i can tickle mine up a bit too.

does any one roughly know a price.. i should be patient. i find out tomorrow

jonbays · 07-08-2006, 09:03 AM

A billet cam is worth $490 odd

EvilChief · 07-08-2006, 02:13 PM

bought my crow cam for 350 4 years ago, last time i checked they are around 300 these days.

as for power 150 at treads and running 14s is not too shabby for a bolt in crow cam on stock ecu ;)

TheSneakiness · 07-08-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baboon_AU

hey guys, this morning i went down to coventrys and ordered the crow cam 2232522 but they couldn't tell me how much it was until monday due to the supplier not being open. do any of you know how much it is??
I think AUII_SE_UTE has one in his ute?

Nup, don't have that cam.

The one I have is 2232549. Which I need to get advanced, because it's so damn sloppy down low...

Baboon_AU · 07-08-2006, 07:30 PM

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Nup, don't have that cam.

The one I have is 2232549. Which I need to get advanced, because it's so damn sloppy down low...

that cam on the crow website says it is for an El/Ef. ???

jonbays · 07-08-2006, 09:34 PM

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that cam on the crow website says it is for an El/Ef. ???

yes and it might have worked in an EF too.

They don't do much in an AU stock lift 111 LSA. Better of with an XR6 cam

TheSneakiness · 08-08-2006, 12:02 PM

That would also explain why according to the dyno at FIST Performance that I only got 120rwkw after tune.

jonbays · 08-08-2006, 11:04 PM

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That would also explain why according to the dyno at FIST Performance that I only got 120rwkw after tune.

No surprise to me either I could only get 129rwkw tuned with headwork out of the 2232549.

I would think a stock XR6 cam would be better or a wade 1604 anything in fact.

Baboon_AU · 08-08-2006, 10:15 PM

so maybe an El/EF recommended cam doesn't work so well in an AU

TheSneakiness · 23-08-2006, 12:58 PM

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so maybe an El/EF recommended cam doesn't work so well in an AU

Actually, was talking with someone who has the 2222549 cam in an EL, saying that 2232549 was for the AU. They wanted the 223 one and were told that it wouldn't work in an EL because of rocker ratio.

Sounds to me that Crows website is up **** creek without a paddle.

blownba · 29-08-2006, 12:36 AM

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so maybe an El/EF recommended cam doesn't work so well in an AU

El cams can get away with waaayyyyy more overlap and duration. the reason ya can't do the same with au and ef is cause of the coilpack. Spark is fired once every 360 deg which means that the plug fires on the exhast stroke too. this is called waste spark and if duration/ overlap is too large you will get poppin and big bangs goin on. I found out the hard way years ago when we put a ed cam in an ef ( there were no ef grinds back then) because of waste spark ignition system you are limited to how wild you can go.

TheSneakiness · 09-08-2006, 09:49 AM

I'm going to go hunting for a new cam then...

jonbays · 09-08-2006, 02:13 PM

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I'm going to go hunting for a new cam then...

Me too. I still have my old Jim Mock Motorsport DEV3HL and a new DEV5 to try next and I will let you all know how I go.

Baboon_AU · 09-08-2006, 07:57 PM

well guys the crow cam is gonna cost me $674.50.. does this seem right to you guys.. doesn't really to me. and thats not installed.. i am going to do it myself

EvilChief · 09-08-2006, 08:10 PM

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well guys the crow cam is gonna cost me $674.50.. does this seem right to you guys.. doesn't really to me. and thats not installed.. i am going to do it myself

if thats the cam by itself thats way over priced

if that is cam, adjustable cam gear, valve springs, valves etc, thats a little closer

stiddy · 09-08-2006, 08:05 PM

Seems way overpriced.. is that just the cam itself? no valve springs or anything?

I'll sell my cam when I get my new one soon ;)

Baboon_AU · 09-08-2006, 08:13 PM

yeah thats what i thought... and i was getting this through coventrys.. with a trade discount and i nearly fell over backwards when they told me

sleeper · 23-08-2006, 12:06 PM

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Futura01 · 23-08-2006, 12:55 PM

more info on these guys please ?? sleeper i am hunting for a cam at the moment

Futura01 · 23-08-2006, 01:12 PM

Well when i spoke to crow , they guy reckons i wouldnt be getting much out of an au falcon unless i had aftermarket computer ...
Seems like nobody has luck with the au rocker ratio

EvilChief · 23-08-2006, 03:24 PM

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Well when i spoke to crow , they guy reckons i wouldnt be getting much out of an au falcon unless i had aftermarket computer ...
Seems like nobody has luck with the au rocker ratio

and who did u talk to at crow?

The crow website needs a little bit of an update, if and when you order products always give you exact make and model and year to confirm tha the right cam is send. Some part numbers apear to be overlapping between models.

As for no power out of an AU i call BS. I have had a Crow 2232550 without any ecu mods at all and made around 150kW and ran a 14.9 quite comfortably (inc my ****ty driving).

jonbays · 23-08-2006, 04:21 PM

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and who did u talk to at crow?

The crow website needs a little bit of an update, if and when you order products always give you exact make and model and year to confirm tha the right cam is send. Some part numbers apear to be overlapping between models.

As for no power out of an AU i call BS. I have had a Crow 2232550 without any ecu mods at all and made around 150kW and ran a 14.9 quite comfortably (inc my ****ty driving).

Well with a unichip and the 2232549 not much power for me 130rwkw all I got.

EvilChief · 23-08-2006, 04:58 PM

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Well with a unichip and the 2232549 not much power for me 130rwkw all I got.

i must admit its not a plain bolt in to get it to that ...

there were a few "extras" as well, but ecu was stock tickford

jonbays · 23-08-2006, 05:12 PM

The Crow 2232550 has the lift to work better in the AU head so 130kw for the 2549 with less then stock lift and 150kw for the 2550 sounds about right to me. My next cam has 0.540 lift not quite as much as the 2250 but lets see how it goes.