Fuels

Ben73 · 09-12-2010, 07:29 PM

What fuel do you use in your cars?

Since my daily drive is nothing special, I use E91 Shell with an 8 cent discount per litre.

My dad told me about 2 years ago that Shell has bad fuel. He also reckons ethanol is bad as well. But I have been using it for ages with no problems.

Do you have a fuel brand you are dedicated too? Or just whatever is closet/cheapest.
It probably all comes from the exact same place anyway.

SLO AU XR8 · 09-12-2010, 07:37 PM

Like alot of members here, I only use BP Ultimate. Even try and con my old man into using it for the mower, so if need be, I have a spare 5L or so at home

Peter B - CV8 · 09-12-2010, 07:47 PM

Lots of motocycle riders avoid Shell fuel for some reason. My tuner told me to stick with BP Ultimate or Caltex Vortex (both 98). Have stuck to them & have never had any issues.

blueluvr · 09-12-2010, 08:05 PM

LOL!, " shell has bad fuel" That sounds very scientific

I have been running 95 or 98 shell in my std BFT for 50,000km, and am yet to have any fuel related problems. No particular reason except it's convenient to my house.

Peter, you are probably referring to the old optimax bike "issue". Optimax used to be pretty ordinary on bikes with carbs mainly, which is why it got a bad name. There was nothing wrong with it as a fuel, but it caused a rich issue which in some bikes that were a little lean to begin with it actually helped, and those that were a little rich to begin with, made them worse of course.

fmc351 · 09-12-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

What fuel do you use in your cars?

Since my daily drive is nothing special, I use E91 Shell with an 8 cent discount per litre.

My dad told me about 2 years ago that Shell has bad fuel. He also reckons ethanol is bad as well. But I have been using it for ages with no problems.

Do you have a fuel brand you are dedicated too? Or just whatever is closet/cheapest.
It probably all comes from the exact same place anyway.

Ethanol fuels apparently do effect cars not specifically built for it. It is more corrosive and thus eats at or dries rubber bits, something like that, the fuel system components.

Ben73 · 09-12-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blueluvr

LOL!, " shell has bad fuel" That sounds very scientific

Well the real way it was worded was Shell has S#*% fuel.
But my old man has had bikes all his life so I guess that may be why he does like it.

blueluvr · 09-12-2010, 08:35 PM

shell fuel is fine. And there was only a ever a shell fuel problem when they introduced optimax back when they did. And it was only a problem in some bikes as mentioned earlier.

However, I do understand how "old mans" can get , mine has some old wives tales that would bring you to tears!

TheZHLANE · 09-12-2010, 09:46 PM

caltex 91 cause im poor

sgt_doofey · 09-12-2010, 10:12 PM

LPG and Diesel.

Mr Hardware · 09-12-2010, 11:35 PM

LPG

Because I like my fuel the same price all month
Because I like paying less tax
Because I like not having black oil
Because I like not replacing my exhaust
Because I like being able to pay with a lobbie
Because I like to hate oil companies
Because I like to have a bowser to myself
Because I like to accellerate without worry!

Auturbo6 · 09-12-2010, 11:39 PM

Used to use Shell optimax, found it to be the best avaliable in it's day. Now LPG on all vehicles, both fords lol. later.

**SSD-85** · 10-12-2010, 12:00 AM

Freedom 98RON E10. Simply because its the same price as BP 91RON up here, and goes as hard as Ultimate. And my XR8 needs premium dude!

My older vehicles get Ultimate though. As they require it.

Other brands dont even get a thought.

ratter · 10-12-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter B - CV8

BP Ultimate or Caltex Vortex (both 98)..

You may know this but Caltex have "Vortex" and "Vortex 98" Vortex is 95 octane, I know some people that have purchased Vortex thinking they were getting 98 octane fuel

Coyote mk3 · 10-12-2010, 12:07 AM

Shell V-power (98)
Never had a problem. Dad used to use optimax when it came out and never had a problem with it either.

But if I need fuel badly I will go to the closest BP or Caltex to get 98 as well.

kezzer · 10-12-2010, 12:09 AM

Shell supplies 98 to most fuel stations in Vic including BP. So don't be fooled.

GreenR · 10-12-2010, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ratter

You may know this but Caltex have "Vortex" and "Vortex 98" Vortex is 95 octane, I know some people that have purchased Vortex thinking they were getting 98 octane fuel

The Vortex 95 is labeled Gold

Foylema · 10-12-2010, 12:17 AM

I use P100 from united its 100 octane with 10% ethanol turbos love it

But if that's not available i use BP Ultimate

Road_Warrior · 10-12-2010, 12:19 AM

LPG :-P

Although the XG gets 96RON premium (it pings on the regular stuff) and my bikes almost always get BP Ultimate 98.

TheInterceptor · 10-12-2010, 12:30 AM

Caltex 91 in the Soob because its cheap(er) and im a tightarse, might have to switch to 98 though. Falcon gets no less than Caltex 95, somtimes gets 98.
They seem to supply good fuel, ever since i began driving ive used Caltex supplied fuels, so ive stuck with them.

bmorris · 10-12-2010, 12:36 AM

98 from either BP or Shell. I find both seem to run almost as well as each other.

Ford_The_Win · 10-12-2010, 12:59 AM

Whatever's cheapest...lol. I try to avoid my local Woolworths Caltex due to it's bad reputation though.
But I usually run BP Ultimate in the EL every four tanks. I don't notice any difference in performance but it does run a lot smoother on 98 octane.

grandpa_spec_F6 · 10-12-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

LPG
Because I like to hate oil companies

Can't help myself:

Quote:

Originally Posted by .

What Is LPG
LPG is produced during the normal petrol chemical distilling process of crude oil and the letters LPG stand for Liquefied Petroleum Gas

Also, BP Ultimate in the V8, Anything BUT E10 in the Falcon.

GSAU

FgNewbie · 10-12-2010, 04:07 AM

In my G6 n/a, normally Caltex 98, 95 when prices are excessive.

I won't use ethanol in anything, especially the boat.

If I remember correctly, there was a news story of a service station in Sydney's west that was selling a dud ethanol mix causing cars to break down within minutes of leaving the servo.

Slightly OT, I read this article today
http://www.trailerboat.com.au/news-a...eid/69062.aspx

The owners of Queensland’s 232,000 recreational boats could be facing serious cost issues if a proposed ethanol mandate is given the go-ahead by the Queensland Government, said recreational boating and light commercial representative group Marine Queensland.

Boating is the wrong environment for ethanol blended fuel. If the slightest amount of water comes in contact with ethanol-blended fuel the alcohol will separate and what enters the motor will cause damage.

I thought water in servo tanks was normal, does this mean the same issues may apply to cars?

geckoGT · 10-12-2010, 08:11 AM

I used to use vortex 98 exclusively and on occasions BP ultimate (if they were cheaper). The Mini is salary packaged and as a part of that I have a caltex card, the typhoon isn't but I stilled filled at the same place. I pretty much have to use 98 as both cars are turbo and although they can both run 95 (the mini can actually run 91 according to the book but I never have). I tried running them on 95 and to be honest I did not notice too much of a difference over 98, perhaps a little more power on the 98.

I have now found that caltex is always more expensive than the independents so I have changed now. I now use Freedom 98, I get it from a small family run servo down the road and it is consistently 5c/L cheaper than the woolworths/caltex in my area. Both cars like it and I have not had any issues at all with inconsistency in fuel quality (I have with both BP and Caltex). I would much rather give my money to a small family run business than a large corporation like woolworths. Since woolworths and coles entered the game here prices have done nothing but go up, while you watch the independents and a lot of the mobil stations close down. The way I see it is the supermarkets are killing competition and controlling the price so I will support the underdogs.

sleek7 · 10-12-2010, 09:56 AM

BP ultimate or Caltex vortex 98. Never 91 and never ethenol.

falcon convert · 10-12-2010, 09:59 AM

I see heaps of you guys insist on using 95 or 98 fuel. I can understand this if the car has been specially performance tuned, but for a regular run of the mill n/a 6, why is 91 or (shock horror) e10 so terrible?
Ford specify that 91 and for that matter E10 is OK. What do you guys know that I don't? Is there any decent evidence to prove the lesser fuels are damaging? Or is it purely a performance thing and if so is this just seat of the pants feel or has it been properly proved?

Mr Hardware · 10-12-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by grandpa_spec_au

Can't help myself:

If you'd read more you'd find it also occurs naturally and is distributed by companies who aren't necessarily the intergalactic & evil BP corporation.

geckoGT · 10-12-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by falcon convert

I see heaps of you guys insist on using 95 or 98 fuel. I can understand this if the car has been specially performance tuned, but for a regular run of the mill n/a 6, why is 91 or (shock horror) e10 so terrible?
Ford specify that 91 and for that matter E10 is OK. What do you guys know that I don't? Is there any decent evidence to prove the lesser fuels are damaging? Or is it purely a performance thing and if so is this just seat of the pants feel or has it been properly proved?

I seem to remember that ford state the "minimum" requirement for the NA 6 is 91 but improvements in performance and economy will be seen using premium fuels. As to if in these engines, 98 will give any advantage over 95 without custom tuning is highly debatable but even Ford admit 95 will do better than 91.

**ebxr8240** · 10-12-2010, 10:20 AM

Caltex due to work supplied for work vehicle..
Yes on a trip I usually select B.P or Caltex...
Not that when driving interstate you have too many options..
I find on forced induction engines of mine.. 98 and next fill E10 as "top up" works well..

Peter B - CV8 · 10-12-2010, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueluvr

LOL!, " shell has bad fuel" That sounds very scientific

I have been running 95 or 98 shell in my std BFT for 50,000km, and am yet to have any fuel related problems. No particular reason except it's convenient to my house.

Peter, you are probably referring to the old optimax bike "issue". Optimax used to be pretty ordinary on bikes with carbs mainly, which is why it got a bad name. There was nothing wrong with it as a fuel, but it caused a rich issue which in some bikes that were a little lean to begin with it actually helped, and those that were a little rich to begin with, made them worse of course.

Yep - that was it. Optimax used to foul up the carbie jets etc & gum things up internally.