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Old 14-12-2009, 11:14 PM   #1
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Here i go again I got one on Friday and today another one read on peoples I also think car sales .com might have something to do with these scams think about it I paid a sum of money to advertise the car till it sells well its being on car sales for approx 4 months

Thanks for the prompt response.. I am ready to buy it now for birthday gift for brother in-law and i am at sea at the moment as i am a marine engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I really want it to be a surprise for brother in-law so i wont let him know anything about it until it gets delivered to him, i am sure he will be more than happy with it. I insisted on paypal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my paypal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your paypal email address and the price so i can make the payments asap for the car and pls if you don't have paypal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com.au and get it set up, after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money through. I have a pick up agent that will come and pick it up after i have made the payments...

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Old 14-12-2009, 11:18 PM   #2
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-----Original Message-----
> From: ryyeg7n7t3tsd9t@jetable.com [mailto:ryyeg7n7t3tsd9t@jetable.com]
> Sent: None
> To: home@ddnpaving.com
> Subject: carsales.com.au Private Vehicle Enquiry
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> The following Private Vehicle Enquiry
> was generated by carsales.com.au:
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> Enquiry ID: 3725805
> Date: 14/12/2009 07:49
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> Name: David Robert
> Town/Suburb: Near COCOROC
> Postcode: 3030
> Mobile Phone: 0419827614
> Email:
> ryyeg7n7t3tsd9t@jetable.com
> Comments:
> Do you still have it?
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Old 14-12-2009, 11:21 PM   #3
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those jetable emails are disposable, can last anywhere between 1 week to 1 month or so


completely untraceable......

i got the same details except they are from Ronald instead

> Town/Suburb: Near COCOROC
> Postcode: 3030
> Mobile Phone: 0419827614

now been hit by these idiots twice!
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Old 15-12-2009, 12:05 AM   #4
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So what are they going to do? Transfer money for the car, then claim they didnt receive said car and get a refund from paypal?

If you're worried about your paypal account, you can get a security key that you need to use along with your password to access your account.

My paypal account was hacked a while back, two transfers of US$500 and one AUD$500 left my account. Before I even knew about it, the transactions were stopped my account frozen for further use until I identified myself and the money transferred back. One problem the conversion rate was different so I ended up with less money, no problem, I rang them and they transferred the difference to my account.

Since then, I got myself one of those security tags just to be sure. It also works for ebay.
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Old 15-12-2009, 12:02 PM   #5
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I also got one of those " I'm an engineer as sea" stories a while back but it was for the father in-law, so I played along for a while. As soon as I said," The car goes nowhere till the money is cleared into my bank account" the emails stopped and I never heard from them again.... funny about that.

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Old 15-12-2009, 04:18 PM   #6
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Yep i got the same email the other day.
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Old 15-12-2009, 05:04 PM   #7
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I went further wit one and gav him a paypal account I no longer used to see if he would put the money in. Well he sent me sum email, pretending to be from paypal saying theres $17k in the account and all I have to do is send a western union account $750 to release it!!!
I went in2 my paypal account and ther was NO money ther, he was just trying 2 rip me off 7 fiddy!!! What a dawg
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Old 15-12-2009, 05:09 PM   #8
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we had similar few months ago,watch em there cagey little mongrels
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Old 15-12-2009, 05:14 PM   #9
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the one we had actually put money in our paypal account
but told paypal to withhold payment to us till we had payed ($700 odd) into another account,if and when we payed it ,then he would ok paypal to release funds
obviously we didnt (thank god )and we pulled pin on the whole thing
as said in another thread if they cant pay by transfer,cheque or cash tell em to
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Old 15-12-2009, 05:28 PM   #10
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its either of two ways they scam you

1. its just a phishing attempt, they send you a fake paypal email saying you have funds, you click on link within email, they have your details when you log in, they now have access to your money .....

2. they pay you money, they receive car, they say it wasnt as described or something or rather, they get money back you get nothing....... dont see how thats even remotely fair in the slightest, but thats how it works


so moral of the story money is easier made dishonestly than it is honestly for minimum wage almost all your life....... and like paypal and ebay, carsales couldnt care a F- what happens, they got their $50-$80 for your ad......... cant even return a damn email to confirm something
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Old 15-12-2009, 05:42 PM   #11
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They have tried it on my SIX times now. I just start swearing at them then they stop and try again under a different name hahaha. But the last one I said "Please stop trying to scam me, im not going to fall for it." and they havent tried again.... yet.
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Old 15-12-2009, 07:21 PM   #12
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I have a car on carsales at the moment. When a user logs in to their account, there is a msg warning of this very scam.
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Old 16-12-2009, 04:44 PM   #13
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I notified carsales they said they have thousands of fraud cases at the moment when I told them it's there resonsebility they said they cant handle all of them so we agreed to suspend my car from sale till I call them back at a later date and re advertise it again at no cost to me,by the way I recived another 4 emails between Monday and Tuesday all of them the same crap.
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Old 16-12-2009, 05:40 PM   #14
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I havent received any so far thankfully through my carsales ad. Technology comes with so many damn problems. I hate it how people take advantage of others and start this scamming crap. It destroys your faith in society.
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Old 16-12-2009, 07:01 PM   #15
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had exactly the same thing he said he was a marine biologist working offshore and i needed to send money via western union to london to recieve my sale price.
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Old 16-12-2009, 07:11 PM   #16
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Ditto marine engineer when I had the Galant listed on eBay. Offered to have his 'agent' come look at 'it' and 'the item'....
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Old 16-12-2009, 07:59 PM   #17
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I got 2 today. Last one asking if the bike is still forsale. Another Gmail account.

So I replied with a few choice words, and I've not heard back.
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Old 16-12-2009, 08:04 PM   #18
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Which I knew how to send a virus in an attachment.
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Old 17-12-2009, 09:32 PM   #19
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This is what I received today for a for sale ad for my old ute.



Good day,

Pls, advice if this listing is still up for sale.... i will offer
$18,000. i am also in the midst of negotiation with other two
sellers but i just find ur listing more interesting than the other listing.

I will call no sooner as the negotiation felt
through cos i will be paying through paypal..... get back to me
if u are pleased with my terms.

Thanks and God bless u.

Regards
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An hour later I got the exact same email, but offering $17500 instead of $18k. Then 15 minutes later I got the same email but for a different item.
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:02 AM   #20
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Got one today same story new name (John Marks) what nobs they write paypal about twenty times cant belive they keep trying with it and a bit sus suss when they would pay more than asking price :
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:15 AM   #21
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I hate paypal.
More than any bank.
I also hate these 3rd world scammers.
I sold a phone on ebay recently and it took 9 times for a legitimate buyer to get it.
I said to one thing it'll be $900 for postage.they shut up real quick.
This is by far my favourite scam story ever though.

Powerbook scam revenge
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i have received several emails claiming to be from paypal saying that they have frozen my paypal account and to click on link. (DO NOT CLICK ON LINK)

I called paypal who confirmed they were not from them and was told to forward them to spoof@paypal.com
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wooooooow that was an awesome read! nice link man, bookmarked and sent it to all my friends
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its a shame that these scams exist...
as the online car market is a legitimate way of selling cars... and an easy way of browsing cars...

this will make the whole experience negative for some people, and tarnish what was a good system...

Paypal = bullsh!t way of paying for anything... there is no security with it - after reading about revoking payments... its rubbish...

nothing that a bank cheque or direct deposit can't pay for in this country...
thats the way I do it when I buy a car...
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If they don't have the cash, they don't get the car, it's dead simple.

I don't even like bank cheques unless the buyer and I go to the bank together and deposit, with the understanding that once payment has cleared, the car is theirs and can be picked up.

Having said that, my best car sales transaction involved nothing more than a carton of beer and I drove off in my purchase immediately. Well, it was a Morris 1100....

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I hate paypal.
More than any bank.
I also hate these 3rd world scammers.
I sold a phone on ebay recently and it took 9 times for a legitimate buyer to get it.
I said to one thing it'll be $900 for postage.they shut up real quick.
This is by far my favourite scam story ever though.

Powerbook scam revenge

We have the technology, can't we just nuke the third world countries where the scams come from? Guarantee after the first one goes kaboom, no one else will send a scam again.
I'd put in money to stop the laundering of oil dollars in Prince Johave's republic, I'd love to stop Reverend Roland from trying to buy things with a dodgey credit card; I'd also love to find the bastard who keeps telling me I've won the UK lottery. : :
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my best car sales transaction involved nothing more than a carton of beer and I drove off in my purchase immediately. Well, it was a Morris 1100....
You were scammed
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If they don't have the cash, they don't get the car, it's dead simple.

I don't even like bank cheques unless the buyer and I go to the bank together and deposit, with the understanding that once payment has cleared, the car is theirs and can be picked up.

Having said that, my best car sales transaction involved nothing more than a carton of beer and I drove off in my purchase immediately. Well, it was a Morris 1100....

MM
A lot of people don't accept bank cheques now. I have never had a problem but think I might reconsider it too.

Bought a boat from interstate once and the guy wouldn't take a bank cheque, and I wouldnt deposit the cash first a week earlier then drive interstate when it cleared to possibly find it gone. Was his house though, but still, you never know.

Ended up taking down a shoebox full of cash that took ages to count!

Have always dealt bank cheques with real estate and never a drama though.

But forget this PayPal crap. Who buys a car on PP? I certainly wouldn't sell one via it. Would have to marki it up heaps just to cover the admin costs.
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what is terrible is that people who are doing the right thing and are selling things legally and legitimately are getting hosed that is terribly unfair and clearly the system is heavily biassed toward the buyer not the seller - the seller does have rights too they hand over the property when they have recieved payment just to have payment yanked from them this is a gutter act without fail if ANYBODY wants to buy something off me if they mention the word paypal they will be told to cram it where the sun don't shine and find alternate means of payment. This sort of garbage is why I don't sell stuff on ebay and the like money is too hard to come by to get it taken from you by some scummy ********. Nobody use poofpal and there will be no poofpal for the scammers to use to rip money from us.
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These exact scams are still going around.
Had the oceanographer try to scam me out of my guitar on ebay.
And have had 2 marinee engineers try to get my ute for their father inlaw.
Im sorry but you lost me at gift for my father inlaw.
Glad i didnt fall for them cause i hadn't seen it before.
Hope it bumps it and makes a few more people aware.
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