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Excluding which cars are actually quicker, ive always had a bit of a gripe with holden and its performance offerings,
For instance the hsv cars have traditionally had the exact same motor as the ss or executive commodore with a different tune and maybe an intake or extractors, essentially the same hardware with minor upgrade, look at say a vx ls1 and a vz hsv 285kw? Same thing under the hood different tune. Ford on the other hand have had different cams, intake manifolds, compression, heads and bolt ons on their performance offerings, a bit more exclusive and harder to copy cat. Over the past years cars with very different motors to their basic models, look at GT from eb-el and then ba-fg, look at t- series and even xr8 has different hardware to more basic models? Does the ford performance offerings over the years seem more exclusive than the holden counterparts? (irrespective of whos quicker) |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Errr, VE, SS has L98, HSV has LS3.
Are you trying to start more arguments. Please go away. Lock it down. |
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Browsing here and there..
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Yeah, this isn't a biased opinion at all. Thought i'd chime in before this pointless thread is locked as i'm sure it will be before another Holden vs Ford war starts.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
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Politics and Holden V Ford. Always a couple of subjects that end up in tears.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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And usually started by the same people. Banhammer anyone?
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Here we go again. This no doubt going to become a brand bashing thread.... Not really needed on this forum.
Maybe such a question should be posed in the more appropriate LS1 forums. Both subject matter & mentality wise....
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When is the last time a performance ford was fitted with the same hardware as the basic model? |
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Would i be ousted from a pub for asking such a question? What argument am i starting if most are likely to agree? |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Ok, fine please go here and discuss.
Oh, and its not just this question. Its you entire thread starter history. Ever notice almost all your threads end in a lock? They always end up in a heated debate. Now you come on looking for a brand bashing thread. That is not what this forum is about. |
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Join Date: May 2005
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I think the issue is that these threads lack objectivity and make members look one eyed to guests.
All new cars are pretty good, the holdens too.
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i think what is said is not an argumental statement rather constructive criticism. They need to be told just like Ford need to be let know when they make substandard stuff.
Are we becoming a politicly incorrect statement forum scared of what we say and dont say?
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If your threads keep getting locked? & it's not the aim, maybe it's time to review what questions you ask, or at least how you ask them. But it's mostly the senseless topics you post.
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Well this is not off to a good start.
The topic may have warranted some discussion however the op's history reminds me of the boy who cried wolf. Some less emotive topics maybe better to gain trust from the masses. |
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