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Old 14-08-2020, 02:31 AM   #1
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I cant fathom a discussion about coffee machines in the camping thread, harden the **** up ladies and grab yourselves a billy and jar of Nescafe..

As for the fridge, considered a 3way which will run on LPG?

The key to maintaining appliances on 12v isn't about how much reserves you have, its about how much generation you need to bring it back up as quick as possible.
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I cant fathom a discussion about coffee machines in the camping thread, harden the **** up ladies and grab yourselves a billy and jar of Nescafe..

As for the fridge, considered a 3way which will run on LPG?

The key to maintaining appliances on 12v isn't about how much reserves you have, its about how much generation you need to bring it back up as quick as possible.
3 ways are the best, just don't sleep in a tent or camper without it being properly vented to the outside, and I mean PROPERLY vented. There has been deaths relating to them not being. A bloke died at Bathurst a few years ago, he slept in the back of his wagon with his fridge on gas
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I cant fathom a discussion about coffee machines in the camping thread, harden the **** up ladies and grab yourselves a billy and jar of Nescafe..

As for the fridge, considered a 3way which will run on LPG?

The key to maintaining appliances on 12v isn't about how much reserves you have, its about how much generation you need to bring it back up as quick as possible.
Was thinking the same thing.
1st world problem.
Gas or Kero frigs are they only real way to achieve true offgrid food storage. LONG TERM. Unless you are prepared to lug around huge solar arrays with matching banks.
Little top loading frigs in the back of your car are impossible to live with full time.
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I cant fathom a discussion about coffee machines in the camping thread, harden the **** up ladies and grab yourselves a billy and jar of Nescafe..
To each their own. My taste buds still work so what you suggest will never cut it

Not relevant to off grid discussion but this comes with me whenever I have access to power. I don't care what other people think is right or wrong or 'proper' camping.
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To each their own. My taste buds still work so what you suggest will never cut it

Not relevant to off grid discussion but this comes with me whenever I have access to power. I don't care what other people think is right or wrong or 'proper' camping.
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Well as far as I am concerned( which I,m not) parking your caravan or trailer next to a 240 v power outlet is NOT camping.Camping is parking way way from civilisation and lighting a camp fire to cook and boil water for your coffee.If you want machine coffee go to the cafe or servo.
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Well as far as I am concerned( which I,m not) parking your caravan or trailer next to a 240 v power outlet is NOT camping.Camping is parking way way from civilisation and lighting a camp fire to cook and boil water for your coffee.If you want machine coffee go to the cafe or servo.
to some significant others, this style of caravaning is all they will entertain if we are to get them out. My mrs is the same, but I prefer to go off grid. But having the option to go to a CP is good too.

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Well as far as I am concerned( which I,m not) parking your caravan or trailer next to a 240 v power outlet is NOT camping.Camping is parking way way from civilisation and lighting a camp fire to cook and boil water for your coffee.If you want machine coffee go to the cafe or servo.
The beauty of choice

Camping to me isn't some competition as to who is more genuine or authentic. Just get out and enjoy the country.

And to clarify, never camped in a caravan park except in halls gap, and plenty of space there with no neighbours.
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Well as far as I am concerned( which I,m not) parking your caravan or trailer next to a 240 v power outlet is NOT camping.Camping is parking way way from civilisation and lighting a camp fire to cook and boil water for your coffee.If you want machine coffee go to the cafe or servo.
Ah, the Aussie resort er caravan park, nothing like looking at the vans next door crammed in like sardines with their outside awning light and A/C left running all night.

Hows that serenity.
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I cant fathom a discussion about coffee machines in the camping thread, harden the **** up ladies and grab yourselves a billy and jar of Nescafe..

As for the fridge, considered a 3way which will run on LPG?

The key to maintaining appliances on 12v isn't about how much reserves you have, its about how much generation you need to bring it back up as quick as possible.
Nescafe??? WTF? You're an animal

May as well fill the billy with dirt and sift the remains through a sock!

As for the fridge and battery setup. Been talking to the mrs on what we want and need. Plan is to get a Avan camper (the A frame units) with kitchenette etc all built in. If thats the case, they come with AGM battery, a/c, lpg and HWS built in, negating the need for a portable setup.

So I may hold off for now if that is the direction we will take in the next few months.

The information in this thread has educated me a lot though.
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As for the fridge and battery setup. Been talking to the mrs on what we want and need. Plan is to get a Avan camper (the A frame units) with kitchenette etc all built in. If thats the case, they come with AGM battery, a/c, lpg and HWS built in, negating the need for a portable setup.

So I may hold off for now if that is the direction we will take in the next few months.

The information in this thread has educated me a lot though.
Don't rush in to buying anything. Some caravan rental places may even have a small avan type van to try so you can see if it's for you.

Not sure if you are planning to tow with your subie (if you still have it) but some cars are limited with how much they can have on the ball so check that out too... I know avans don't weigh much so should be ok on that front but always cheaper to check everything out first.
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Don't rush in to buying anything. Some caravan rental places may even have a small avan type van to try so you can see if it's for you.

Not sure if you are planning to tow with your subie (if you still have it) but some cars are limited with how much they can have on the ball so check that out too... I know avans don't weigh much so should be ok on that front but always cheaper to check everything out first.
He might have to rush in as its a sellers market ATM according to other threads. With the limited travel Australian's are going to enjoy for quite a while I don't reckon there will be much of a choice.
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He might have to rush in as its a sellers market ATM according to other threads. With the limited travel Australian's are going to enjoy for quite a while I don't reckon there will be much of a choice.
Its true, i work part time in a van yatd and we cant keep up with demand and you know what demand does to prices.
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Don't rush in to buying anything. Some caravan rental places may even have a small avan type van to try so you can see if it's for you.

Not sure if you are planning to tow with your subie (if you still have it) but some cars are limited with how much they can have on the ball so check that out too... I know avans don't weigh much so should be ok on that front but always cheaper to check everything out first.
Yes I have the little XV. Sold the liberty 6 months ago. The XV is rated to 1400kg. The Avans Im looking at have a Tare weight of about 900kg with an ATM of about 1100- or there abouts. I will be looking at a HD tow bar setup with anderson plug, electronic brakes and towball weight of about 140kg.

Looking at something with similar specs to this
https://www.avanadelaide.com.au/curr...ck/avan-aliner

TECH SPECS:
TARE WEIGHT: 835KG
BALL WEIGHT: 65KG
STOCK NUMBER : AV2011

FEATURES:

EFFORTLESS SPRING ASSISTED SETUP
LOW PROFILE FOR EASY TOWING
2 X 4KG GAS BOTTLES AND REGULATOR
SPORTS WHEELS
REVERSE CYCLE AIR CONDITIONING
1 X LARGE WIND OUT DOMES FRONT
1 X LARGE WIND OUT DOMES REAR
2X READING LIGHTS
MICROWAVE
2 X GAS BURNER COOKTOP
3 WAY FRIDGE
1 X REAR DOUBLE BED
UNDERBED STORAGE
FRONT DINNETTE TURNS INTO ANOTHER BED
SOLAR WIRING
1 SIDE BAGGAGE DOOR
ELECTRIC BRAKES
ELECTRIC HOT WATER SERVICE
BATTERY PACK
63 LITRE WATER STORAGE

Adding solar will increase weight so will take that into consideration.
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Yes I have the little XV. Sold the liberty 6 months ago. The XV is rated to 1400kg. The Avans Im looking at have a Tare weight of about 900kg with an ATM of about 1100- or there abouts. I will be looking at a HD tow bar setup with anderson plug, electronic brakes and towball weight of about 140kg.

Looking at something with similar specs to this
https://www.avanadelaide.com.au/curr...ck/avan-aliner

TECH SPECS:
TARE WEIGHT: 835KG
BALL WEIGHT: 65KG
STOCK NUMBER : AV2011

FEATURES:

EFFORTLESS SPRING ASSISTED SETUP
LOW PROFILE FOR EASY TOWING
2 X 4KG GAS BOTTLES AND REGULATOR
SPORTS WHEELS
REVERSE CYCLE AIR CONDITIONING
1 X LARGE WIND OUT DOMES FRONT
1 X LARGE WIND OUT DOMES REAR
2X READING LIGHTS
MICROWAVE
2 X GAS BURNER COOKTOP
3 WAY FRIDGE
1 X REAR DOUBLE BED
UNDERBED STORAGE
FRONT DINNETTE TURNS INTO ANOTHER BED
SOLAR WIRING
1 SIDE BAGGAGE DOOR
ELECTRIC BRAKES
ELECTRIC HOT WATER SERVICE
BATTERY PACK
63 LITRE WATER STORAGE

Adding solar will increase weight so will take that into consideration.
They are bloody horrible, terrible cramped snd the angled walls reduce headspace, id look for a Jayco Penguin, you get everything the Avan has with square sides, bed in main body and the ability to mount an awning.
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They are bloody horrible, terrible cramped snd the angled walls reduce headspace, id look for a Jayco Penguin, you get everything the Avan has with square sides, bed in main body and the ability to mount an awning.
I hear what you are saying. I was looking at the Jayco Penguin but wasnt sure about all the canvas flapping in the wind at night and also resisting mould if its wet. The wife thinks the Avans could be too cramped for us also.
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I hear what you are saying. I was looking at the Jayco Penguin but wasnt sure about all the canvas flapping in the wind at night and also resisting mould if its wet. The wife thinks the Avans could be too cramped for us also.
Canvas resists mould ok as long as you don't leave it packed up wet. Whenever I've had to pack up wet I always put it back up at home and make sure it's fully dried out before putting it back down.

Canvas is a bit dodgy in high winds but it looks wise than what it is. Mine has held up pretty well in some very windy conditions. It can be a bit unsettling on the inside though, esp if trying to sleep.

Maybe look at small pop tops. Some of them are pretty light, esp older ones.
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Your canvas may flap; mine doesn't, not one bit.
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