The new Toyota Aurion

05MkIIFutura · 28-09-2006, 11:54 AM

As always, you can get a complete preview of Toyota's new models by looking to America. Follow the link below (They are still using the Avalon nameplate). Obviously power outputs well be different.

http://www.toyota.com/avalon/index.html

Question: What do you like about them, what dont you?

They should be a capable option to the Commodore and Falcon, build quality is out of this universe. If this car came with RWD i would sell the Falcon tomorrow.

TheChemist · 28-09-2006, 11:58 AM

www.aurionv6.com.au
a site all about it

blackahcdx · 28-09-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 05MkIIFutura

As always, you can get a complete preview of Toyota's new models by looking to America. Follow the link below (They are still using the Avalon nameplate). Obviously power outputs well be different.

http://www.toyota.com/avalon/index.html

Question: What do you like about them, what dont you?

They should be a capable option to the Commodore and Falcon, build quality is out of this universe. If this car came with RWD i would sell the Falcon tomorrow.

Different car all together my friend.

The Aurion is not the US Avalon.

The Aurion is a V6 Camry with a nose job.

Smoke Pursuit · 28-09-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackahcdx

Different car all together my friend.

The Aurion is not the US Avalon.

The Aurion is a V6 Camry with a nose job.

Dont think so.

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blackahcdx · 28-09-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

Dont think so.

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i know so

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05MkIIFutura · 29-09-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

Dont think so.

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I agree with LSTerritoryGhia, there is no doubt that they share substantial design, look at the doors on all four cars, they are identical. Our previous Avalon (a VERY old design from the first generation in US, 1995-1999) was also based on the camry with a nose and tail job with a few more mm wheelbase.

The new one is no different. If it cost Ford $500million to put new sheetmetal on front and rear and upgrade the engine for the BA there is no way Toyota Aus could justify spending even more than that to re-engineer a completely unique nose and tail for a car which has historically been a sales flop.

And I am sure that you are all aware that Australia's Camry has always half a generation behind the Americans > the two are identical but i think we get higher engine outputs

sfr rob · 28-09-2006, 03:58 PM

All i have to say, is i would have the Aurion over the VE ANY DAY... maybe not HSV though :hihi:

Am i correct in thinking that the car is supercharged?

blackahcdx · 28-09-2006, 04:03 PM

which car?

they showed a concept car about a year a go which was supposed to show the Aurion Sportivo, i think that one is supercharged, but the others are just ur normal grandpa and grandma models

MethodX · 28-09-2006, 04:51 PM

Hopefully its flops leaving the sales to GM and Ford.

People actually liking Toyota's?
A scandal

Poetic Justice · 28-09-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Hopefully its flops leaving the sales to GM and Ford.

People actually liking Toyota's?
A scandal

That's a bit harsh isn't it?

What's so wrong about Toyota's product?

Why do Ford and GM deserve to sell more?

blackahcdx · 28-09-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackout

What's so wrong about Toyota's product?

are you trying to tell me there is something right about putting a Fridge on wheels?

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Dave_au · 29-09-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Hopefully its flops leaving the sales to GM and Ford.

People actually liking Toyota's?
A scandal

I take it your taking the **** otherwise it's a pretty silly comment with Corolla kicking Falcon down to the number three spot in recent sales.

Falcon Freak · 29-09-2006, 06:52 AM

Those Aurions are pretty crap as they produce 0rwkw.

FF

turboute · 28-09-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

All i have to say, is i would have the Aurion over the VE ANY DAY... maybe not HSV though :hihi:

Am i correct in thinking that the car is supercharged?

No that will be the TRD model due out at a leter date.

I still cannot understand how putting 200kW through the front wheels will work without being dangerous.

sfr rob · 28-09-2006, 04:54 PM

oh yeah, it musthave been the sportivo version.. hopefully they do a RWD supercharged version.... a man can but deam.

XR8-260 · 28-09-2006, 05:09 PM

I wonder how light the aurion is going to be...

nb_351 · 28-09-2006, 05:58 PM

i think youll find almost anything toyota or any japanese company put out is a lot better quality than the holden or ford equivalent...
i bet you dojnt see japanese people bagging out our products?

suttoinc · 28-09-2006, 06:26 PM

I know Toyota quality is supposed to be better and everything but one thing Toyota has not delivered yet is a car that people can't wait to drive. Remember the hype leading up to the BA or the VE, that was real interest by potential owners or kids in the school yard. There is certainly a lot of hype going on about the Aurion but is it manufactured hype generated by bombardment advertising or is it coming from the people. (is there a toyota forum where people talk about this stuff?)

If people actually can't wait to drive the new Aurion then kudos to toyota for turning out an interesting car because until now nearly everybody who buys a toyota does so because of their supposed reliability and not because they are an interesting or aspirational car. (4x4s are excluded from this statement)

On a totally different note, 200kw seems a lot to be putting through the front wheels, just out of interest has there ever been a more powerful front wheel drive car (in factory form) because I can not think of one off the top of my head.

pertuan · 28-09-2006, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suttoinc

I know Toyota quality is supposed to be better and everything but one thing Toyota has not delivered yet is a car that people can't wait to drive. Remember the hype leading up to the BA or the VE, that was real interest by potential owners or kids in the school yard. There is certainly a lot of hype going on about the Aurion but is it manufactured hype generated by bombardment advertising or is it coming from the people. (is there a toyota forum where people talk about this stuff?)

From a sales point of view, they probably dont need to. People will buy whatever they end up putting out. The general motoring crowd who see a car as being something to get them from A to B couldnt care less about the car. They just want it to have bulletproof engineering and low maintenance. Thats an image that Toyota has succeeded in producing.

Well... thats my opinion anyway.

Smoked · 28-09-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pertuan

From a sales point of view, they probably dont need to. People will buy whatever they end up putting out. The general motoring crowd who see a car as being something to get them from A to B couldnt care less about the car. They just want it to have bulletproof engineering and low maintenance. Thats an image that Toyota has succeeded in producing.

Well... thats my opinion anyway.

Thats the reason I drive a Ford, and my Mother drives a Toyota.

16wantsI6 · 28-09-2006, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suttoinc

I know Toyota quality is supposed to be better and everything but one thing Toyota has not delivered yet is a car that people can't wait to drive. Remember the hype leading up to the BA or the VE, that was real interest by potential owners or kids in the school yard. There is certainly a lot of hype going on about the Aurion but is it manufactured hype generated by bombardment advertising or is it coming from the people. (is there a toyota forum where people talk about this stuff?)

If people actually can't wait to drive the new Aurion then kudos to toyota for turning out an interesting car because until now nearly everybody who buys a toyota does so because of their supposed reliability and not because they are an interesting or aspirational car. (4x4s are excluded from this statement)

On a totally different note, 200kw seems a lot to be putting through the front wheels, just out of interest has there ever been a more powerful front wheel drive car (in factory form) because I can not think of one off the top of my head.

i can imagin a lot of spinnage.... if there wasnt traction control

05MkIIFutura · 29-09-2006, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suttoinc

I know Toyota quality is supposed to be better and everything but one thing Toyota has not delivered yet is a car that people can't wait to drive. Remember the hype leading up to the BA or the VE, that was real interest by potential owners or kids in the school yard. There is certainly a lot of hype going on about the Aurion but is it manufactured hype generated by bombardment advertising or is it coming from the people. (is there a toyota forum where people talk about this stuff?)

If people actually can't wait to drive the new Aurion then kudos to toyota for turning out an interesting car because until now nearly everybody who buys a toyota does so because of their supposed reliability and not because they are an interesting or aspirational car. (4x4s are excluded from this statement)

On a totally different note, 200kw seems a lot to be putting through the front wheels, just out of interest has there ever been a more powerful front wheel drive car (in factory form) because I can not think of one off the top of my head.

Just wait till the supercharged TRD version of the Aurion comes out early 2007, i dont think 250kw will be unreasonable there > all from a 3.5 V6, makes HSV and FPV look like they are still using engines from the dark ages (hang on, they are??)

Dilan · 29-09-2006, 08:50 AM

The Aurion is NOT a nose job of a Camry, despite what blackahcdx is saying. Just ignore him.

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Originally Posted by blackahcdx

are you trying to tell me there is something right about putting a Fridge on wheels?

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So Supra's, Chasers etc are fridges?

satria · 29-09-2006, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilan

The Aurion is NOT a nose job of a Camry, despite what blackahcdx is saying. Just ignore him.

So Supra's, Chasers etc are fridges?

yes, LOL

anyways, the thing that has always put me off toyotas (camry's etc) is they make the body panels so large (especially towards the rear) it makes the wheel arches look small and the wheels even smaller...it looks so awkward, can't the designers see this???

blackahcdx · 29-09-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilan

The Aurion is NOT a nose job of a Camry, despite what blackahcdx is saying. Just ignore him.

So Supra's, Chasers etc are fridges?

Would u like to tell me why it isn't just a nose job?

Take 1 camry, give it rhinoplasty, add a V6 and u have an Aurion.

Simple!!!

blackahcdx · 29-09-2006, 08:41 AM

and this here picture will show u the glass house it totally different.

05MkIIFutura · 29-09-2006, 08:44 AM

Your right the rear half of the back door does look significantly different

blackahcdx · 29-09-2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 05MkIIFutura

Your right the rear half of the back door does look significantly different

and the front gaurds, and the bonnet, and the A pillar..........need i go on

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05MkIIFutura · 29-09-2006, 09:16 AM

None the less it is still based on a Camry Platform - as is the Aurion!!

blackahcdx · 29-09-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 05MkIIFutura

None the less it is still based on a Camry Platform - as is the Aurion!!

The Aurion isn't "based" on the camry platform, IT IS A CAMRY!!!

just with a v6 and a nose job.

The avalon is based on the camry platform because it is stretched bigger ;)

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