Older drivers among hoons

Cruise · 02-07-2007, 09:03 AM

But i thought only P platers were hoons?

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http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...0-2682,00.html

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DRIVERS as old as 60 and as young as 14 are having their cars seized by police for drag racing, burnouts or revving their engines.

More than 1400 cars have been impounded under the State Government's anti-hoon laws since they were introduced in May 2005.
Of those, only 35 vehicles were driven by women. The oldest drivers were charged with "sustained wheel spins" and "engine or tyre noise".

Assistant Commissioner Grant Stevens said the vast majority of hoon drivers were men aged 17 to 34, with the worst group being 20 to 24.

"Overall, we have had more than 1400 vehicle seizures and the vast majority of those are male drivers," he said.

Under the legislation, impounded cars are held for 48 hours and are released after the owner pays a holding fee.

"Some people are aware of our ability to impound cars," Mr Stevens said.

"However, it often comes as a surprise to people detected using their vehicles in the wrong way. But this is a very real lesson that delivers a message about responsible driving."

Mr Stevens said the figures coincided with the ages of people dying on our roads.

"Driving is inherently risky but the risk magnifies substantially when you drive recklessly or dangerously and, from a policing perspective, we will target people who drive in this manner," he said.

Hoons only have to be caught driving recklessly once for police to take their cars.

"You would have to be involved in some sort of racing activity or speed trial, doing wheel spins, revving your engine or causing your tyres to create excessive amounts of noise," Mr Stevens said. "Driving on an oval or reserve can get you into trouble."

Excessive noise, including a loud car stereo "to the point of recklessness", also could be enough for police to seize a vehicle.

Vehicle seizures are included in a new police initiative announced this week requiring officers to each pull over 20 extra cars a year.

"We are just looking for our officers to be more vigilant and take action when they see poor driving," Mr Stevens said.

Tuddy200 · 02-07-2007, 11:34 AM

Loud Car Noise, OH Boy.

**PepeLePew** · 02-07-2007, 11:37 AM

The 60yr old probably just missed the brake pedal...

Wonder what that holding fee is?

merlin · 02-07-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruise Control

Assistant Commissioner Grant Stevens said the vast majority of hoon drivers were men aged 17 to 34, with the worst group being 20 to 24..

You thought right.

Outbackjack · 02-07-2007, 03:17 PM

Your car can be impounded for engine noise??? These are the kind of rules that will be abused by SOB police men/women.

ENGINE NOISE?????

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SiKoRa_eL_97 · 02-07-2007, 03:55 PM

errrrrr wtfff so does this mean i can get impounded for playing my 2 subs to loud?

manny_papa · 02-07-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SiKoRa_eL_97

errrrrr wtfff so does this mean i can get impounded for playing my 2 subs to loud?

i am all for it in residential places. stupid kids crank their systems in all hours of the night.

Tuddy200 · 02-07-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by manny_papa

i am all for it in residential places. stupid kids crank their systems in all hours of the night.

2 Things:

1) I don't like being referred to as a "stupid kid".
2) You were young once too! You telling me you never went to a house party that went til 4am with music all night?

I can understand your frustration, but the term "stupid kids" is going to far! I'm sure they don't like you starting your XR8 in the early morning when they are recovering.

SiKoRa_eL_97 · 02-07-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by G.J.Tuddy

2 Things:

1) I don't like being referred to as a "stupid kid".
2) You were young once too! You telling me you never went to a house party that went til 4am with music all night?

I can understand your frustration, but the term "stupid kids" is going to far! I'm sure they don't like you starting your XR8 in the early morning when they are recovering.

agreed and im sure that ROOSTA wouldnt be happy with his 8 subs in his car lol

LTDHO · 03-07-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by manny_papa

i am all for it in residential places. stupid kids crank their systems in all hours of the night.

Those stupid kids really annoy me.
1) There is no need to have the audio that loud, if anything it is dangerous.
2) When I used to do it, I'd go someone away from houses.

I caught the end of the program and saw a Merc and a VL interceptor which had a 'P'.
I think they were showing that anyone can get done.

Sourbastard · 03-07-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by manny_papa

i am all for it in residential places. stupid kids crank their systems in all hours of the night.

yes the pensioners need their 4 hours of sleep per night so they can be on the road at 6am - 9am so they can get their pills and soft yogurts.

I live on a main road, I get fully sick skylines with 5 inch mufflers, trucks using exhaust brakes, excessively noisey XC sedans and random VL's ploughing through my trees while enroute to the third major impact of the day. All day long, all night long.

If your biggest whinge is loud stereos, you need to harden up.

4Vman · 02-07-2007, 07:18 PM

On the melb news tonight they said of the 2000+ cars impounded so far under the new hoon laws over 50% were owned by P Platers....

(and 50% were commodores..

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apolloxbgt · 02-07-2007, 09:55 PM

I saw on the news they made a big deal about impounding an ex cop car,it was a vl bt1 LOL.

70caprigt3k · 02-07-2007, 10:00 PM

I want to know where they get that they have impounded cars belonging to 14 year olds from, 14 is too young to even have a learners permit so presumably they shouldn't be on the roads at all. And in the case that they were wouldn't that be a different offence all together?

SVT8 · 02-07-2007, 10:24 PM

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"Driving is inherently risky but the risk magnifies substantially when you drive recklessly or dangerously and, from a policing perspective, we will target people who drive in this manner," he said.

LOL at revving!. I would love to hear why peoples cars get impounded for revving?. Most likely reason would be because they broke traction (which is understandable), but realistically that quote listed above contradicts itself. There is no risk in revving? If the car exceeds the DB limit or you drive the car in a "hoon" like matter, then they should re-state there phrase meant by revving. All cars have to rev to work.......!. A camry revving its little heart out trying to get up to 100 on a freeway can get impounded?. Im pretty sure revving goes in compliance for traction loss (its a tripple wammy law breaker for an action, one for traction loss, wheel noise and revving). :yeees:

XR8Master · 03-07-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SVT8

LOL at revving!. I would love to hear why peoples cars get impounded for revving?. Most likely reason would be because they broke traction (which is understandable), but realistically that quote listed above contradicts itself. There is no risk in revving? If the car exceeds the DB limit or you drive the car in a "hoon" like matter, then they should re-state there phrase meant by revving. All cars have to rev to work.......!. A camry revving its little heart out trying to get up to 100 on a freeway can get impounded?. Im pretty sure revving goes in compliance for traction loss (its a tripple wammy law breaker for an action, one for traction loss, wheel noise and revving). :yeees:

What they mean by this is when a few cars commune in your local maccas car park on a thursday night to show off there hot VL or EA and take the tacho all the way to 4k as a way of having a standoff to see which one has the balls, maybe even just for shits and giggles Well the point being that this is very dangerous and frankly it has to stop.

Why are car lovers branded as hoons, enemy's of the state and its very existance for if they where to breed and grow for to long they would destroy the world as we know

4Vman · 03-07-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by XR8Master

Why are car lovers branded as hoons, enemy's of the state and its very existance for if they where to breed and grow for to long they would destroy the world as we know

They're not.. there's too much paranoia and exaggeration eminating from some of you.
Its only the tools who carry on in a dangerous manner that get labelled "hoons"...
If you're doing nothing wrong you've got absolutely nothing to worry, complain or winge about....

sexr6tasy · 03-07-2007, 07:26 PM

well a minority do it and the entire lot of them get punished real fair half the people on this site about speed cameras and get done while there speeding maybe its time those people stopped worrying, complaing and wingeing about all the new laws and cameras to or is it just that they target everyone and not p-platers more double standards i say yes. Its a total lot of bullshit so LABOUR AND LIBERALS.

BLDNUT01 · 02-07-2007, 10:14 PM

just saw on drive.com that victoria is setting a hoon hot line
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...ID=41393&vf=12
now i have a prob what happens when the person in the volvo doing 80 on the freeway/ highway when stated 100 rings the hotline because he thinks your a hoon for going past him or the neighbour gives you the s...s and you ring

nugget378 · 03-07-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BLDNUT01

just saw on drive.com that victoria is setting a hoon hot line
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...ID=41393&vf=12
now i have a prob what happens when the person in the volvo doing 80 on the freeway/ highway when stated 100 rings the hotline because he thinks your a hoon for going past him or the neighbour gives you the s...s and you ring

call up and dob in the volvo driver for driving "dangerously" :P

Seriously,the big problem with "dob in" lines are vexatious calls,especially if the dobber is an upstanding type,dont get the car spot in the woolies car park?
call the hoon line...

MeLLy · 02-07-2007, 10:35 PM

"We are just looking for our officers to be more vigilant and take action when they see poor driving," Mr Stevens said.

If only they would catch the people who use their phones while driving,who are all over the road or the taxi that parks in the middle of a busy street to purposely hold up traffic or the car that is weaving all over the road or the soarer that was doing 80 and weaving in and out of traffic on a busy road on friday night (all of these whom i witnessed on the weekend were all fully licensed drivers).Their focus is for those who have P plates...You guys are all beginning to winge because there are some of you out there that like to occasionally put your foot down, or you might accidently spin your wheels or have your old music to loud or do anyone of those "hooning" acts either on purpose or by accident, well doesnt it feel good to be targeted? Doesnt seem fair hey!..WELCOME to a p platers world!...Your all so quick off the draw to put blame on us and to treat us all the same because of a percentage of hooligans who do the wrong thing, but when it comes to you guys bam dont pick on us etc...I've had enough of double standards here...There is more than one group of ppl on this road, and its time there presence is felt...Why cant the police catch them for a change...So im glad they have brought in the "hoon" laws for that reason atleast its just not more target practice on a big red P.
Also that hotline is going to be trouble we have one here but they put you on a watch list for a few months and send you out a letter.It would be stupid if you were working on your car in your driveway and revving the engine during the day and have a couple of tops turn up and tell you they have to impound it...Legistation has gone down the dunny hole.

[Tonko] · 03-07-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MeLLy

***Huge rant about P-platers being victimised***

Here we go again!
Why does every P-plater feel victimised? I have NEVER been pulled over, and my cars dont exactly "blend in"
You said "welcome to a P-platers world"
Can i ask is it a different reality im driving in? Im fairly sure it isnt, and the same rules, still apply to us...
Basically, if you do something to attract the attention of the boys in blue, then you deserve it.
Also, there is more going on in the cop shop, reports from people and such...
Maybe you should just look at your own style of driving and ask "why?"

Jesk · 03-07-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TonkoXR8

Here we go again!
Why does every P-plater feel victimised? I have NEVER been pulled over, and my cars dont exactly "blend in"
You said "welcome to a P-platers world"
Can i ask is it a different reality im driving in? Im fairly sure it isnt, and the same rules, still apply to us...
Basically, if you do something to attract the attention of the boys in blue, then you deserve it.
Also, there is more going on in the cop shop, reports from people and such...
Maybe you should just look at your own style of driving and ask "why?"

umm speaking for melly her car blends in very well with everyone else nothing outlandish, no car club stickers and probably the most sedate driver in MFC (thats not a bad thing either melly). so maybe she does driver in a state of altered reality (no she doesn't come from parafield or salisbury!)

V3RSAC3 · 03-07-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TonkoXR8

Here we go again!
Why does every P-plater feel victimised? I have NEVER been pulled over, and my cars dont exactly "blend in"
You said "welcome to a P-platers world"
Can i ask is it a different reality im driving in? Im fairly sure it isnt, and the same rules, still apply to us...
Basically, if you do something to attract the attention of the boys in blue, then you deserve it.
Also, there is more going on in the cop shop, reports from people and such...
Maybe you should just look at your own style of driving and ask "why?"

im with Melly ... im on my P2's now, meaning that i dont have to display my P-plates .. but it's true that the police DO target p-platers ... i dont know why, maybe the PRESUME that we are doing something wrong ... and i'd have to say, that just because we are beginner drivers, doesnt mean that we are any worse than a fully liscnesed driver ... i've seen many full drivers that are hopeless, just because they have the 'experience' it doesnt mean they have the skill to drive ...

when i was on my P's .. i was pulled over 5 times in the 12months, for not doing aanything at all ... twice they tried to defect my STOCK AUI Fairmont ... another time they tried to do me for Towing on my P's :S ... and the other 2 i was in my parents cars, in which i got pulled over and asked whose car it was, and wether i had permission to drive it ... which they checked on ... and i wasnt doing ANYTHING stupid, i see myself as a VERY sensible driver ... and as they say "good drivers, just drive" ... its because of these minor PERCENTAGE of P-Plater Hoons that give the rest of us a bad name!

i pitty the fool on the bandwagon!

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Walkinshaw · 02-07-2007, 11:09 PM

If you have music excessivly loud from a vehicle in populated areas you're not stupid kid. However you are still clasified as stupid.

sexr6tasy · 02-07-2007, 11:15 PM

The main problem i find with this report is there giving police sweeping powers that the courts would probably just not prosecute decently anyway case in point i got done for a no u-turn at a no right turn sign the judge said it was rather trivial and made me pay 50 bucks that was it 50 bucks oh and the fact i had to waste the courts time and my own by appealing it even after multiple attempts to have it removed before it got to court even to the main body in s.a failed some court fees, so if the cops bring in a kid under the charge of excessive noise due to stereo id believe the judge would more then likely give him the smallest fine or sentence possible.

Rock ape · 02-07-2007, 11:23 PM

Hoon this hoon that. We will all be driving crappy Camry's at 40kmh soon. How do we stop this before it is to late?

sexr6tasy · 02-07-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BAGT001

Hoon this hoon that. We will all be driving crappy Camry's at 40kmh soon. How do we stop this before it is to late?

Some kind of revolution then installing sourbastard in charge as supreme overlord?

TEaaron · 02-07-2007, 11:45 PM

Imagine P plate laws in 20 years.

70caprigt3k · 02-07-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XDaaron

Imagine P plate laws in 20 years.

You will be only allowed to "drive" electric golf buggies with a full roll cage, the driver must wear a helmet and must be wrapped in 30cm thick foam from neck to toe and you have to be accompanied by a person who has held their opens for at least 50 years.