Todays Sydney Auction Prices & my observations (opinions!)

[falconboy]

Heres a quick list of Fords (with Crummydores thrown in for good measure as a comparison). No I didn't buy anything, although came very close to bidding for the Futura wagon with 67k on it.

Not too many irresistable bargains (in my opinion). Keep in mind 99% are with no rego, plus add 2.2% ($385 min) sellers fee, + $27.50 'admin' fee so probably looking at another $1k on top to get it on the road. The real cheap Falcons had 170K + on them.

FORD
06 FPV GT BF 81k - $28750
06 BF XT Wagon LPG 99K - $14750
03 BA XR6 Turbo 84K - $15500
05 BAII XR6 60K - $15300
05 BAII Futura Wagon 67K - $8250
05 BF Futura sedan 75k - $10950
04 Fiesta 30K - $8850
05 Focus LS LX 75K - $11400
02 BA Futura 170K - $5750
06 BF XT 5.4L 24K - $15300
04 BA XT 176K - $7600
05 BA XT Wagon 55K - $9000


Holden
06 Commodore Omega VE 50K - $16850
05 VZ SV6 92K - $15600
05 Statesman 71K - $16500
05 Berlina VZ wagon 94k - $13500
02 Calais 5.7L 134K - $11100
06 Acclaim Wagon 89K - $11800
04 VZ Exec 161K - $6500
03 VY 137K - $5600
05 VZ Exec 93K - $7950

A few of the 'cheap and nastys' today (although none looked that nasty actually)
94 Laser Liata LXI 223K - $3100 (looked pretty good)
97 Hyundai Lantra wagon 184K - $1700
93 Camry Wagon 139K - $2830
98 Toyota Vienta Vxi 165K - $4000 (not a bad looking car at all for the price)
96 Lancer 153K - $1700
96 Mazda 626 SDX 196K - $2600 (another that looked good)
95 Saab 900 160K - $1000 (passed in)
02 Ford AU3 Forte wagon 168K $3750

Problem with this place (Pickles) is because they leave the keys in, and I assume some of them sit for a while too, half of them have dead batterys (probably 25% of the ones I tried) which means you can't even start them up!

What I liked the look of (don't shoot me) was an 04 Maxima J31 ST-L with 31K for $13500. If you can get over the slightly different styling, this was a really comfy classy car inside. A bit grandpa ish though. I also liked the Subarus (04 Outback 110K $13850, 07 Liberty 34K $24000). A 98 WRX with 123k on it went for $9000. I don't know value of these things but I'm under the impression they are a little rocket and $9k was pretty reasonable)


Over and out.

[nugget378]

Ive had my eye out for a BF 6 speed turbo ute for a while,but havent seen one yet when Ive had the chance to look,I saw a late au gas wagon with 50k on it go for 4000 which I thought was a bargain for the condition of the car..

[cs123]

The BF GT looks like a steal.....

[EgoFG]

Maybe my glasses are coloured - but it looks like Falcs are bringing more money than commos

[Supercharged]

Originally Posted by EgoFG

Maybe my glasses are coloured - but it looks like Falcs are bringing more money than commos

Almost always the case, if a vehicle sells really well they become common and floods the second hand market which drives the prices down.
If fuel ever goes sky high all those HSV's will be dam near give aways.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by cs123

The BF GT looks like a steal.....

I was thinking that too.

[rocket67]

falconboy, thanks for posting the prices - makes for very interesting reading.

We buy a lot of our cars from Pickles. Here are three that we bought in August from Pickles Melbourne. Prices include auction fees.

11/02 BA Fairmont Ghia, 5.4 V8 85,000 klms $8,929 needed minor tidy up.

06/02 VX11 Executive sedan 6 cyl 128,000 klms $4,529

07/02 WH Statesman 5.7 litre V8 227,000 klms $ 6,679 Required recond trans which cost us $2,000. Bought car knowing this.

I am of the opinion that Pickles Perth is probably the cheapest priced cars.

Lots of bargains to be had for those who do their homework.

Rocket.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by rocket67

falconboy, thanks for posting the prices - makes for very interesting reading.

We buy a lot of our cars from Pickles. Here are three that we bought in August from Pickles Melbourne. Prices include auction fees.

11/02 BA Fairmont Ghia, 5.4 V8 85,000 klms $8,929 needed minor tidy up.

06/02 VX11 Executive sedan 6 cyl 128,000 klms $4,529

07/02 WH Statesman 5.7 litre V8 227,000 klms $ 6,679 Required recond trans which cost us $2,000. Bought car knowing this.

I am of the opinion that Pickles Perth is probably the cheapest priced cars.

Lots of bargains to be had for those who do their homework.

Rocket.

Approx 9k for a BA Ghia V8, thats awesome.

[Rodp]

The GT is absolutely a notable buy. Just as well I wasn't there as I'd be itching at that price!

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Approx 9k for a BA Ghia V8, thats awesome.

...not if you're the seller. Been there before. :

[rocket67]

Originally Posted by Rodp

The GT is absolutely a notable buy. Just as well I wasn't there as I'd be itching at that price!



...not if you're the seller. Been there before. :

RodP, Yes - i heard the story behind the BA repo. It is sad indeed.



More photos of Ghia and Statesman here http://photobucket.com/mustang_68
Rocket

[The Monty]

How is a two year old GT not to irresistable for $28 000?

[falconboy]

Originally Posted by The Monty

How is a two year old GT not to irresistable for $28 000?

Well, I suppose if you head along with $28000 burning a hole in your pocket it might be alright.

I forgot to say, it might have gone for a few more $ if it presented a bit nicer as it only had stockies on it. I'd say someone kept their mags (or Pickles staff nicked them!)

[GT0132]

Originally Posted by falconboy

Well, I suppose if you head along with $28000 burning a hole in your pocket it might be alright.

I forgot to say, it might have gone for a few more $ if it presented a bit nicer as it only had stockies on it. I'd say someone kept their mags (or Pickles staff nicked them!)

Stock rims you mean?...Not sure if that would have much impact...In fact having stock rims may enhance the price.

28 grand for a BF GT is a rock bottom price...sickening actually if youre a GT seller

[ThePistonHead]

Was there anything wrong with the 02 AU wagon?

[falconboy]

I didn't take a terribly close look, it was the last lot of the auction, I wasn't really interested in an AU and my ears were hurting from the loudspeaker. From what I saw it looked OK.

[DBourne]

06 FPV GT BF 81k - $28750

that sounds pretty bloody good!

[colossus]

damn this thread - I like people not knowing about the auctions, then all the cars are cheaper for me...

[Polyal]

Any BF2 Ghias on the market? That in a 3v with a 6SA would/is a great car.

[rocket67]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Any BF2 Ghias on the market? That in a 3v with a 6SA would/is a great car.

Just did a search of pickles website. There are 2 BF Fairlane Ghias going up on monday in Adelaide. Both 4.0 litres with 6 speed autos. One is a fixed price car for $34,225. 04/07 with only 27,000 klms.

You can do a search on Pickles website anytime -

http://www.pickles.com.au/

[BFZ Wagon]

WOW, Those BA wagons were cheap & they were under 100k as well which was a surprise (typical of an LPG car to fetch a lot more) and that AU wagon price is good too.
I could have recently bought an 04 BA Wagon for $8750 with 167k but it was petrol only. :(

It's nice to see the Fords getting better money than the Dunnydores.

[BlackLS]

Originally Posted by falconboy

What I liked the look of (don't shoot me) was an 04 Maxima J31 ST-L with 31K for $13500. If you can get over the slightly different styling, this was a really comfy classy car inside.

I agree with you on the Maxima, most underrated car ever. Even though FWD, the CVT and Ward-winning engine is really nice. I'd love to get one, get a rear lip to help the tallish look of the rear, dump it on 20s

[Bobman]

Guys, if you're interested in prices of damaged B Series Falcons, just check out the thread at:

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11235257

Some of the prices on this thread look quite high. You can get BA Mk2 XR6s for cheaper than 15k and turbos for cheaper than that as well. The BA Futura and BF GT seemed to be much more on the cheaper side.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Some of the prices on this thread look quite high.

thats because they aren't damaged. i couldn't be bothered stuffing around getting a car fixed no matter how cheap. most times, by the time its on the road in a respectable condition, the saving is rather minimal. the only reason i would buy a damaged car would be as a donor.

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by prydey

thats because they aren't damaged. i couldn't be bothered stuffing around getting a car fixed no matter how cheap. most times, by the time its on the road in a respectable condition, the saving is rather minimal. the only reason i would buy a damaged car would be as a donor.

What I meant was they were quite high as normal vehicles, compared to the other normal vehicles which sell on carsales, ebay and in the trading post.

I've seen un-damaged examples of BA Turbos selling between $11k - 15k. No way would I waste 15k at an auction for a BA XRT and then pay all the fees on top of that. I've seen cars sent to auction with sand in the oil and other vandalism as a fair few get repossessed and the owners sometimes obscure some damage which goes undetected by prospective bidders at auctions.

Just for info, I saved $10k when I bought a damaged car a few years ago. Safe to way it was probably better built and painted than some new ones from Ford, as I had to strip, rebuild and repaint it.

[uranium_death]

I will say that auctions represent good value for a second hand large Australian built vehicle.

My brother bought a 2003 VY two years ago and has had no issues whatsoever.
15k with 60,000 kms on the odo.
Nearby Holden dealer priced similar at 20,000-22,000

[falconboy]

Hey, has anyone registered as an online bidder/observer on Pickles web site? I've done so and need to install the Pickles Live software, however when I run the install program to do so my antivirus is finding an unknown trojan in the setup .exe file which is odd. I've emailed them but somehow I don't even expect to hear back which seems typical of most businesses with an online presence these days. :(

[rocket67]

Hi falconboy, We regularly use the online bidding.... It`s great.

We had trouble when we first installed it. From memory we had to enable pop ups to make it work.

Try it - if it does not work just get onto Pickles and they will guide you.

One thing we are not happy about - They increased the fee for online bidding from $500 to $1,000. Sure, they refund it if you do not buy a car. But still a bit pi..ed off about it!

Rocket.

[falconboy]

Kidding? I assume that $1000 is instead of the 2.2% or is it as well as? If its as well as then I wouldn't bother.

Truthfully I'm only doing it as an 'observer' to check out a few online to see what they are averaging over a few weeks, then head in and do it in person when I'm ready to buy and they have what I want. A BF Futura wagon would be nice, but with decent k's they are still a little above my budget, so a BA it might be. If I don't find something nice instead of like an EL Fairmont/Fairlane or XR8.

I did install it, ignoring the trojan message. For starters it was a generic trojan message from Avast, not a known trojan, so it might be a false alarm, and secondly, working in IT I can pretty much clean anything it might get anyway.

[rocket67]

If you register as an observer - you probably do not have to pay it as you cannot lodge a bid.

They use your credit card details and withdraw 1,000 as security when you intend to bid for a car/cars. The $1,000 is then deducted from the total balance of your purchase. So the 2.2% would still be payable. If you do not buy a car the $1,000 is put back into your account within a few days.

I guess they do it to make sure people are serious about going ahead with the purchase.

If you do observe - could you check out the prices of V8 Statesmans for me?
2004 to 2006 models. Do not have time to watch the auctions at the moment.

Rocket.

[prydey]

there's a v6 WM going at the gov auctions tomorrow. i'll let you know what it goes for. i'll be there