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I am too scared to as but what was last months figures like?
not looking good in the US... Car sales have hit a wall in the United States, with at least one major manufacturer to slash production, raising fears of major job losses. Ford Motor Co.'s US sales tumbled 48% in February, Toyota Motor Corp.'s declined 40%, Nissan Motor Co.'s slid 37% and General Motors posted a 53% drop as unemployment rose and consumer confidence weakened. The figures may herald monthly sales that were the lowest for the industry in almost 27 years. Seven analysts in a Bloomberg survey estimated declines averaging 45% for General Motors Corp. and 50% for Chrysler LLC. Honda Motor Co. may post a 32% slide, based on three analysts. But GM's sales were worse than expected, and the company will now cut production by 34%. ``It's going to get worse before it gets better,'' said Joe Barker, an analyst at consulting firm CSM Worldwide Inc. in Northville, Michigan. ``We do anticipate the sales rate to bottom this quarter. That's not to say that we're anticipating the second quarter to be any sort of real rebound, only slightly better than the first quarter.'' Ford's sales of cars and trucks dropped to 99,400 from 192,799 a year earlier, according to a statement today from the Dearborn, Michigan-based company. Toyota reported a decline to 109,583 from 182,169, and Nissan said its sales fell to 54,249 from 86,219. Industry sales at these levels make it more challenging for Detroit-based GM and Auburn Hills, Michigan-based Chrysler to become profitable and pay back $US17.4 billion in US loans. President Barack Obama's auto task force may approve as much as $US21.6 billion more aid for the two automakers and support for the thousands of companies that supply them with parts. `Consumer confidence issue' ``At this point, it's not as much credit as it is a consumer confidence issue,'' Al Castignetti, Nissan's vice president of US sales, said in an interview. ``Even if you can afford the loan, people are not willing to take on the risk right now because of concern about jobs.'' Toyota, forecasting its first loss in 59 years, may ask for 200 billion yen ($3 billion) in loans for its credit unit from the Japanese government as private financing has become too expensive, public broadcaster NHK reported today, without naming its source. ``I don't know if it's going to climb back up quickly enough to support the struggling automakers who are borrowing money on a quarterly basis,'' said Stephen Spivey, an automotive analyst at Frost & Sullivan in San Antonio. ``I don't know if that is strong enough to support this industry through 2009.'' Automakers may report today that new vehicles sold at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 9.5 million cars and light trucks, according to the average estimate of 27 analysts and economists surveyed by Bloomberg. That rate would be the lowest since June 1982, when the US had less than three-fourths as many licensed drivers. `Stuck' at 9 million ``Until we get the housing market corrected, confidence back on Wall Street and the credit flowing once again I'm afraid we're going to be stuck'' near the 9 million annualized sales rate, CSM's Barker said. Annual US sales of cars and light trucks averaged more than 16 million this decade. Ford's sales were hurt by a 55% decline to 23,614 for its F-Series pickup trucks. Sales for the Volvo unit, which Ford wants to sell, were also down 55%. The automaker trimmed its second-quarter North American production plan by 38% from a year earlier to reduce inventory. Sales for Toyota City, Japan-based Toyota, the world's largest automaker, were dragged down by declines of 60% for its Tundra large pickup and 51% for the Yaris small car. Volkswagen, Daimler Volkswagen AG said February sales for its namesake brand declined 18% to 13,660. Daimler AG said sales of its Mercedes-Benz and Smart vehicles fell 21% to 15,614. Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, said it sold 30,621 vehicles last month, a 1.5% decline from a year earlier. In January, Seoul-based Hyundai was the sole major automaker to post a gain in US sales. February had 24 selling days, one fewer than in the same month of 2008. The analyst estimates are based on the daily sales rate, and some automakers report on that basis. Bloomberg uses unadjusted figures, which for February would be about 4%age points lower that the adjusted numbers. The Conference Board said Feb. 24 its measure of consumer confidence plunged to the lowest in 42 years of record-keeping. US employers probably shed 650,000 jobs last month, the most since 1949, according to the median estimates in a Bloomberg survey before the Labor Department's March 6 report. The jobless rate for January was 7.6%, the highest since 1992. Bloomberg News |
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Ford 2,009 2,008
Ford Courier 4X4 0 6 Ford Escape 121 187 Ford F250 4X2 1 10 Ford Fairlane 1 16 Ford Falcon 2,386 2,520 Ford Falcon Ute 1,057 1,207 Ford Fiesta 798 723 Ford Focus 853 1,310 Ford Focus Coupe Cabriolet 32 29 Ford LTD 0 0 Ford Mondeo 314 392 Ford Ranger 4X2 438 862 Ford Ranger 4X4 473 626 Ford Territory 765 1,299 Ford Transit 115 174 Ford Transit Bus 15 14 Ford Transit C/C 27 30 Ford Total 7,396 9,405 Change of -21.4% Holden 2,009 2,008 Holden Adventra 0 0 Holden Astra 1,149 1,366 Holden Astra Convertible 40 58 Holden Barina 846 1,289 Holden Caprice 99 198 Holden Captiva 911 932 Holden Colorado 4X2 304 0 Holden Colorado 4X4 731 0 Holden Combo 62 84 Holden Commodore 3,376 4,312 Holden Epica 221 470 Holden Rodeo 4X2 19 497 Holden Rodeo 4X4 27 793 Holden Statesman 60 218 Holden Utility 4X2 649 1,454 Holden Viva 535 715 Holden Total 9,029 12,386 Change of -27.1% Toyota 2,009 2,008 Toyota Aurion 968 1,855 Toyota Avensis 71 92 Toyota Camry (4 cyl) 1,564 1,723 Toyota Coaster 22 26 Toyota Corolla 2,769 4,191 Toyota Hiace Bus 177 295 Toyota Hiace Van 539 950 Toyota Hilux 4X2 1,025 1,497 Toyota Hilux 4X4 1,594 1,828 Toyota Kluger 825 1,404 Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC 395 449 Toyota Landcruiser Wagon 566 1,005 Toyota Prado 977 1,262 Toyota Prius 260 262 Toyota RAV4 854 1,409 Toyota Tarago 120 175 Toyota Yaris 1,548 2,280 Toyota Total 14,274 20,703 Change of -31.1%
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Ford ute is back well above holden ute, why the huge difference from last month?
Be great if ford could get the RTV ute back. Thats the ute that gives the falcon ute some cred. People actually want one, not just need one. Hurry up Ford! |
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Bugger me thats huge!
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Holden sales down 30% more to Ford....
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Auto industry in australia is really starting to slow down now, last year we seen some falls in figures, but now we are really feeling the pinch...
Good to seel Falcon ute is back on top, only reason it had a bad month for January was lack of supply.. Ford didnt build enough of the right cars in Nov / Dec 2008... This had some negative effects on Ford sales... Things like 7 seat Territory ghias are as rare as hens teeth, and they wonder why the figures are bad.. Its hard to sell cars when you have no stock.
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Commodore down ~25%, with 18000 in stock...
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Id rather be making to order most of my sales than holding that much stock. Waiting a few weeks for a car to be made is not a bit issue.
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Good to see the Fiesta picking up. New model and economic climate pushing people into quality smaller cars.
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who says holden have 18000 stock? apparently its a rumour. and is nothing like that.
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Wow Caprice and Statesman sales have died ouch good thing Holden has a strong export market. Oh hang on.... that has died too in recent months
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Despite these sales slumps dealers don't seem any keener to me to want to move cars - thats been my experience in the last few months. Could be a side effect of some dealers now being understaffed due to layoffs.
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Falcon platform is still pulling 4197 units a month, against the Commodore platform which is doing 4,184. Those quantities are still sustainable. Plus Holden will be still shifting a fair few to the middle east.
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"2,500 vehicles have been found dumped in the past four months outside Terminal III"
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How the hell could the Captiva outsell the Territory?
Don't people know what they're buying? Good to see the Mondeo outsell the Epica. Barina sales fell a bit. I hope Daddy's daughters have actually learned that they can save their money by just cutting their legs off with the rusty kitchen knife. Falcon also got close to Corolla...only a few hundred. Aurion....~50% sold compared to last year.
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[QUOTE=uranium_death]How the hell could the Captiva outsell the Territory?
Don't people know what they're buying? I agree 100%
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no rumour. holden have 18000 sitting on lawn. they have been registering cars to make sales look better than they are. cant do that for ever. once a car is 12months old. they have to sell as second hand car. good for a little while. but not as long as they have been doing it.
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holden has dropped exports to under 1000untis for the next 4 months.
it was originally about 5000 from memory.
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Wow Aurion sales more than halved, makes Falcon look like a hero with only a small drop.
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what u have to remember is that holden may not have sold lots of captivas. just like the commodore over the last 4 months, they may just be registering them. to improve the look of sales and get people buying. but its not working.
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I find it funny that 1 Fairlane was sold... wasn't production stopped near on 12 months ago? OR do they still do special order?
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Ford should honestly be happy because the way I see it we are selling more locally built cars than Holden? We are only running a skeleton shift and everything is build to order. That is much more sustainable than having 18,000 cars in a field picking daisies........ |
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