Taurus vs Falcon specs

[turbodewd]

Hi all,

I fear the demise of the Falcon being replaced by the Taurus. The current taurus is bigger than a falcon, check these latest specs I got off the respective websites. The taurus is huge!!!

Taurus (cm)
515 long
194 wide (exc mirrors)
154 tall

Falcon (cm)
497 long
187 wide (exc mirrors)
143 tall

I couldnt stomach a car larger than the falcon. Its already at the limit of parking or tight space viability. It will be very interesting to see what Ford does to replace the FG falcon. The car used to be a top 5 seller every month. If they fed us a Taurus then sales would disappear totally.

[csv8]

The new TAURUS is a great car..tech is way above the Falcon....

[mik]

Tech is`nt everything!

[DJM83]

It is in this market place IMO well not everything but it sure helps

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by turbodewd

Taurus (cm)
515 long
194 wide (exc mirrors)
154 tall

Falcon (cm)
497 long
187 wide (exc mirrors)
143 tall

Those dimensions are staggering, especially the width. 7cm wider than a Falcon, bloody hell!

[Ford_The_Win]

So the new Taurus is almost the same size as the old Crown Victoria?

[csv8]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Those dimensions are staggering, especially the width. 7cm wider than a Falcon, bloody hell!

Its needed..people are getting wider!!!! Taurus Maccas Special Edition.

[nickdl]

Originally Posted by csv8

Its needed..people are getting wider!!!! Taurus Maccas Special Edition.

And at 194cm wide, we'll need an American-sized drive thru for a Taurus to fit!

[fou_bleu]

In the event that the next Falcon is amalgamated with the Taurus, it would be on an all-new platform anyway (a stretched version of the upcoming Mondeo/Fusion platform), therefore rendering these figures irrelevant.

[chevypower]

It will probably happen. Mondeo is consolidating with the Fusion (therefore it will be a Mondeo/Fusion fusion!). It only makes sense that the Taurus and Falcon merge and becomes truly global.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by chevypower

It will probably happen. Mondeo is consolidating with the Fusion (therefore it will be a Mondeo/Fusion fusion!).
It only makes sense that the Taurus and Falcon merge and becomes truly global.

You're looking in the wrong direction.....

[2011G6E]

The thing with Top Gear is that it's entertainment, not objective car evaluation most of the time...their main criterion for most cars is whether the you can hang the rear out in a corner, as you do every single day on the road going to work. They bitterly complain when a car has such good road manners and such a well setup chassis that it simply digs in and corners sweetly, instead of getting all loose and squirelly in the bends. I take what they say about car handling with a huge grain of salt...

The Taurus has an amazing amount of standard kit, but the comment about it being to big is probably right. We just got back from a couple of days in Rocky, and you really notice the extra size of a Falcon compared tothe average size of a car park spot nowadays...

U.S fuel economy figures have to undergo some conversions first...not only the usual one of converting from miles per gallon to liters per hundred kilometers...but if you, like me, still mostly think in miles per gallon, you have to remember the fact that a US gallon is only 3.8 liters instead of an imperial 4.545 liters...

[LeadFoot81]

Originally Posted by 4RD4TW

In the event that the next Falcon is amalgamated with the Taurus, it would be on an all-new platform anyway (a stretched version of the upcoming Mondeo/Fusion platform), therefore rendering these figures irrelevant.

Stop. Youre making too much sense!!

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by 4RD4TW

In the event that the next Falcon is amalgamated with the Taurus, it would be on an all-new platform anyway (a stretched version of the upcoming Mondeo/Fusion platform), therefore rendering these figures irrelevant.

Exactly, and by all accounts, the stretched-for-Taurus version of the CD4 platform has been cancelled in RHD mode.

Oh and BTW the current Taurus is bigger on the outside than the Falcon but has no more interior space.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by 4RD4TW

In the event that the next Falcon is amalgamated with the Taurus, it would be on an all-new platform anyway (a stretched version of the upcoming Mondeo/Fusion platform), therefore rendering these figures irrelevant.

There would be no point. Mondeo is about the same size anyway.

Falcon is a proper E segment car. Mondeo/Fusion and stretched for Tuarus wouldn't fit a Coyote under the hood. Falcon can take a four, six, and eight.

Falcon is down but not out.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Apparently as I've read, the Taurus may be ahead of the Falcon in some respects, but in others, such as handling, ride, and engine and dynamics, the Falcon is km's ahead. FWD would be a dealbreaker for me too. AWD is good, but I'd miss RWD. And AWD is only available on the top spec SHO currently. I've read that the engine is coarse, and doesn't have the same punch.

And yes, if the Falcon were to be replaced, it wouldnt be with the current Taurus. I've read that the next all new Taurus is planned to be smaller, about current Falcon size. I reckon that the best things to do, would be to improve the Falcon with an all new model, and include many of the goodies from the Taurus, as well as more, and then replaces the Taurus with a car that is much much better. To drive the current Falcon is apparently already ahead of the Taurus. So why not just make the Falcon global and replace the Taurus with a great car.

I like the Taurus for it's front and side styling, it looks pretty good. But I'm not a fan of the rear.

I'm just going to wait and see what happens, and hope that whatever happens with the Falcon is a good thing.

[prydey]

falcon is almost confirmed until 2015/2016 so pointless looking at specs of current US models.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by flappist

This is based on your experience driving RWD, FWD and AWD vehicles with various engine configurations in diverse environments?

When you eventually get a license why don't you actually drive a few different vehicles and find out personally what they are like rather than just repeating rubbish you have read in the internet that in most cases was written by someone else who had no idea and was just repeating rubbish they read on the internet..........

No, it is not based on my experience, I have only driven 4WD and RWD on a farm, and havent even got Learners yet. That is based on what I have read, written by people who have driven many different vehicles in many different environments, and especially an article I read by an Australian car tester who visited the USA to test the Taurus and compare with the Falcon. Unfortunately I don't remember who this tester was, I'd have to dig it up...

When I do get my licence, don't worry I'll be driving many different cars. If what I repeated is rubbish, then it is rubbish written by a Australian car tester who tested the Falcon and then visited the USA to test the Taurus.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by CarsAreMyLife

No, it is not based on my experience, I have only driven 4WD and RWD on a farm, and havent even got Learners yet. That is based on what I have read, written by people who have driven many different vehicles in many different environments, and especially an article I read by an Australian car tester who visited the USA to test the Taurus and compare with the Falcon. Unfortunately I don't remember who this tester was, I'd have to dig it up...

When I do get my licence, don't worry I'll be driving many different cars. If what I repeated is rubbish, then it is rubbish written by a Australian car tester who tested the Falcon and then visited the USA to test the Taurus.

A totally unbiased car tester like Joshua Dowling?

Or Jeremy Clarkson?

Before you discount FWD go for a drive in a Mazda 3 MPS or Focus RS or XR5.
Better still go and play on a track in a similar power to weight ratio falcon against them and see just how hopeless they really are.......

[Windsor342ci]

Originally Posted by flappist

A totally unbiased car tester like Joshua Dowling?

Or Jeremy Clarkson?

Before you discount FWD go for a drive in a Mazda 3 MPS or Focus RS or XR5.
Better still go and play on a track in a similar power to weight ratio falcon against them and see just how hopeless they really are.......

I think your being a bit harsh Flap. Whether the kid has a lic or not. I tend to agree with him. Sure you want to bring up nice cars like the MPS, RS etc. but if tey where that good, why doesnt our top end companies run with this? Im not big on Euro cars so I dnt have all the facts. But last i checked BMWs & Mercs ade pretty much rwd. Same with alot of Lambos & Ferrari.
Further more I cant remember the last time Ive seen a top fueler or funny car in FWD.... Do you???

[flappist]

Originally Posted by CRYHSV

Further more I cant remember the last time Ive seen a top fueler or funny car in FWD.... Do you???

Yes it was the one that went round corners.......

The comment was about handling and a Renult Megane did 8.08 on the Nürburgring Nordschleife recently which is quicker than most RWDs short of supercars.

The points I am making are:

1) Just because something is RWD does not make it handle well or quick and just because something is FWD does not make it slow.

2) People tend to bias their opinions on cars with their favorites being perfect in every way and anything they don't personally like being hopeless, just ask anyone on street commodores how good a FG2 GT is.

The vast majority of people on here have not even sat in let alone driven most of the vehicles they have strong opinions on so all they are doing is repeating other people's repeating of other people's made up stories.

[Cabbage]

Originally Posted by flappist

This is based on your experience driving RWD, FWD and AWD vehicles with various engine configurations in diverse environments?

Yeah a bit harsh, the kid can have an opinion without being shot down. I've driven rwd, fwd and awd with different engines, transmissions and in different environments and I agree with him. I prefer cars that are rwd or awd. Just my preference not to say fwd cars aren't comparable. Knowing this and without having driven the Taurus, if the taurus replaced the falcon, I would most likely not consider a fwd Taurus but would look at awd or rwd versions.

[kinksta]

AWD is the winner for me. If I can get a Taurus, with similar power to the G6ET, but with AWD and more tech, I'm definitely in.

[bang_on33]

Originally Posted by kinksta

AWD is the winner for me. If I can get a Taurus, with similar power to the G6ET, but with AWD and more tech, I'm definitely in.

+1 right there.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Yeah I agree it's pretty pointless... but it's interesting all the same?

[OffRoadFalcon]

So the Falcon is more space efficient too... the Taurus is pretty much Fairlane/Statesman/Caprice size externally.

[Falcon_Crazy]

Adding more food for thought

Taurus (cm)
515 long
194 wide (exc mirrors)
154 tall

Falcon (cm)
497 long
187 wide (exc mirrors)
143 tall

Mondeo Hatch
477 Long
188 (Excl mir)
150 Tall

[jpd80]

Next gen Taurus has been looked at for Australia and apparently dismissed...

[TC200six]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Next gen Taurus has been looked at for Australia and apparently dismissed...

Sounds interesting if that's the case.

I still don't feel settled on the idea of seeing the day the Falcon nameplate goes onto a FWD-based vehicle. If the time does come when the Falcon will become no longer viable as a RWD vehicle, I think they should drop the Falcon name. That's just what I still feel at the moment, if the Falcon does end up finding itself based on the Taurus platform, the last RWD model would be the latest model Falcon I'd buy.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Very interesting... I wouldn't buy a FWD car either, AWD, 4WD and RWD for me. If the Falcon ends up being FWD, Ford will lose me as a Falcon customer, I'm already unhappy about the loss of the wagon.