Fpv Bfmkii Range Unleashed!!!

[jeffchalker]

HO HUM
BLAH BLAH
IMO
Lets redesign the wheel and give it a new name
Get your act together FPV - your soft
This is the trouble with you lot - you get UNI Students to do statistical surveys and release a car that has no affiliation with Ford Performance Vehicles.
The sooner you get enthhusiasts back in your company, the sooner you will have a product that is represents your customer base.
You have very little credability and you a riding on a reputation of 30+ years ago.
You should have changed the name from Force 8 or Force 6 to
Metrosexual 8 or HOMO 6
Enough said

[Orbit]

haha and WTF is with the chrome mirrors!!!

[Jayden]

Originally Posted by jeffchalker

HO HUM
BLAH BLAH
IMO
Lets redesign the wheel and give it a new name
Get your act together FPV - your soft
This is the trouble with you lot - you get UNI Students to do statistical surveys and release a car that has no affiliation with Ford Performance Vehicles.
The sooner you get enthhusiasts back in your company, the sooner you will have a product that is represents your customer base.
You have very little credability and you a riding on a reputation of 30+ years ago.
You should have changed the name from Force 8 or Force 6 to
Metrosexual 8 or HOMO 6
Enough said

what do you drive?

[jeffchalker]

Originally Posted by Jayden

what do you drive?

HI Jayden
I have a BF GT-P

[MrSparkle]

Originally Posted by flappist

I think it is a great idea and my next FPV will probably be one.

Not sure if you read my post in the other thread, but I agree that the concept is sound - and they are providing something that we have asked for since FPV was born, in the luxury variant of an FPV vehicle.

Where they have really rogered the donkey though is PRICE. Both models and particularly the Force6 just simply cannot justify their pricetag when you line them up spec for spec with both the existing FPV models, and the competitors (especially ones such as SRT8).

My beef is not with the cars at all but with the pricing! (Oh and the lack of a manual box)

[qwigybo]

ouch $72k for base model force 6. only 70k for GT-P

[LG]

Woop-dee-doo!!! Thanks Ford, another let down.

[TZENU]

Love em....
Force 6 & 8 make the grange look weak IMO (but then again im a Ford man)

[Jayden]

You know what the best thing about this new car is for me,
another proffesional photoshoot to make the car look awsome, putting fresh pics along side the new commodore marketing pics, you can see now kinda why they had to do it, the car looks fresher, like its new but its not. if you get my drift.

they are hoping to stem the tide of people that rush out to buy high performace and luxaury holdens and I think from a marketing perspective it was a good idea to make this. And the BF is so good, they had nothing to inproove on in terms of look :P

[Xitdxr]

Not bad, Pitty they didnt do anything than change the rims on the current models. Typhoon looks cheap with the uncoloured spotty surrounds. Hope fpv are saving money for a reason, because they need to be much better when they release the all new falcon next year!

[Ozfords]

What the hell is it with the Force's?

It's a GT without a massive bad-as spoiler, but a slim one instead. Looks so weird, they should of designed a new body kit to better integrate the sedate spoiler. LAZY!

It's like whacking a XR rear bumper onto a Ghia, wait, they've done that to.

Ford stop rummaging in the parts bin and give us something new.

[billyb35]

I'm confused with the marketing of this product?

It's a GT-P without the spoiler and stripes? Not trying to be dismissive but I hope the development of this model didn't cost a fortune

[Lukeyson]

Originally Posted by billyb35

It's a GT-P without the spoiler and stripes? Not trying to be dismissive but I hope the development of this model didn't cost a fortune

No No NO, come on, your missing the wood paneling on the doors !!! : :

Im sorry, but i would and hope to be, going a GT-P, NCO auto & leather is how the GTP should have been ALL ALONG !!!!!! I couldnt give a crap the SS & HSV is quicker, GT-P is a drivers car, and has hot street cred and appearance

[DJM83]

Actually i dont mind the Force range and id probably chose one (force 6) over a typhoon mayb its just the stealth look i guess. Wheels on F6 look horn as love em

[M14A-Mclaren]

Is the car in the middle of the AFF logo going to be updated?

[Bucknaked]

Wow. Looks just like a GT, except it has different seats, no big wing and a badge that says Force 8. It's a ridiculous idea. If they wanted it to be different, they should have gone for a unique styling. Like the Typhoon difference in styling to the GT. I don't see any thought process that make sit all that different to it's stable mate's.

[Steffo]

So BFII has 290kW 520Nm in the GT as before? Great! So in other words, its slower then every VX-VY-VZ-VE Commodore V8, and all the BA+ Turbo Sixes. And is the "hero" car.

What would give someone who bought an FPV GT BA in 2003 the motivation to upgrade? The same car with an extra gear? Their own investment into it which is far cheaper then getting the newer car would make it exponentially better then FPV's useless upgrades.

[ReVd_uP]

no big changes, but they still look hot as, id drive one any day of the week over any bombadoore equivelent, i think the force series is a crack at what the GS used to be in the good ol days...

[dps]

Spot on MrSparkle. Can't believe the pricing. Even down lower for the new Typhoon. OK auto is NCO but the XR6T dropped so I expected (hoped?) to see similar for the Typhoon. A GT is now only $400 more expensive than a Typhoon! Makes my choice even harder.

Funny how (as Flappist said) that most of the critics of the Force range have never sat their bum in any FPV let alone driven one. And saying that every FPV has never been as quick as the equivelent HSV, without having actually driven both is also silly.
It's a great idea and I am hopeful that it continues.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by RATT

Funny how (as Flappist said) that most of the critics of the Force range have never sat their bum in any FPV let alone driven one. And saying that every FPV has never been as quick as the equivelent HSV, without having actually driven both is also silly.
It's a great idea and I am hopeful that it continues.

Hear hear, too many people on here criticise cars they haven't really experienced other than reading articles from other peoples - and quite often biased opinions.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by blackout

Hear hear, too many people on here criticise cars they haven't really experienced other than reading articles from other peoples - and quite often biased opinions.

LOL...and how do you know what experience some people have had? Ive driven FPV's, quite extensively actually, but Im not going to sit here and brag or get on my high horse about it.

Some people here, which is fair enough as it is a Ford forums, are what I said before, blue noses. People who would sit behind Tom Gormans backside, let him dump on them and be thankful that his poo is blue; FoA can do no wrong.

[Sprint347]

i predict a failed attempt as per the T-series... but i hope not

i'd give my soul for a black Force 6

[davocol]

A ridiculous waste of money, all it does is deminish the GT name. It has no place in the fpv line up and will sell poorly, pathetic effort.

[bigAl]

its farken ****, looks like a XT with a body kit, but with a staggering price tag, its a let down, force 8 would led u belive theres a blower, but no, ford dissapoints us again..

[335JET]

I agree with jeffchalker,
Ford and FPV should employ or at least listen too the enthusiasts, rather than the surveys they do.
When im in the market for an FPV i will definately not get a Force 6 or 8, main reason is no manual transmission.
And why is it that the BA/BF GT hasent had a power upgrade yet, i mean 290kw for four years is way too long.
The AU T1 had 200kw than the T2 had 220kw than the mighty T3 had 250.

[Orbit]

Originally Posted by BOSS 4LTR

I agree with jeffchalker,
Ford and FPV should employ or at least listen too the enthusiasts, rather than the surveys they do.
When im in the market for an FPV i will definately not get a Force 6 or 8, main reason is no manual transmission.
And why is it that the BA/BF GT hasent had a power upgrade yet, i mean 290kw for four years is way too long.
The AU T1 had 200kw than the T2 had 220kw than the mighty T3 had 250.

We are approaching the limits of streetable power....a 570Kw monster is all well and good but at the end of the day your average joe still wants to be able to reliably get places with a realatively economical car. That is safe etc etc etc... the school of thought at the moment is that your average joe driver doesn't have the skills to handle "the power" not that i agree but i see the point.
Also it is NOT in fords intrests to release any power upgrades that might deminish the potential for the next model(perhaps this indicates only slight increases for the next model at least initally) on top of which the VE is a bit of a flop at the moment and FPV are already selling strongly. I don't see the force's being large sellers but at the end of the day they don't need to be... as the GT F6 and XR's will still be doing remarkably well.
bring on the next model

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by Orbit

We are approaching the limits of streetable power....

BMW M5 = 373kW 520Nm 5.0 V10
Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG = 380kW 630Nm 6.2 V8
Audi RS6 = 331kW 560Nm 4.2 Twin Turbo V8

We're not close to any sort of limit yet.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by BOSS 4LTR

The AU T1 had 200kw than the T2 had 220kw than the mighty T3 had 250.

Yep, and they sold like hotcakes......

[Noddy]

Originally Posted by flappist

Yep, and they sold like hotcakes......

I wouldn't class 828 cars sold between 1999-2002 selling like hotcakes and they didn't have the GT or F6 to compete against.

T1 201
T2 199
T3 428

With regards to the force cars visually there is very little difference (rear wing, wheels) although i understand why the Force 6 interests you. You want an F6 with the ghia interior and the Force 6 gives you that but it is a small market to sell to. As far as the Force 8 goes purchase a GTP without stripes, remove the rear wing and pocket the 10k.

I and many others on this forum are just trying to see the logic in Fpv's thinking releasing another model with such subtle differences and such a large make up in price over (imo) very similar cars.