Ford CEO - Americans need to “get back in love” with small cars

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by ivorya

Thats ok, but when the taxes increase, the servicing goes thru the roof, fuel prices go up ............. PLs don't be a Karen and whinge!

It's not like any Gov has/had alluded to the immediate sales stop of ICE vehicles in fact, they have/had given a 10+yr timeline. Plenty of time for new technologies to worked on.

In Fact, watch this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZhKqpleAXM&t=639s Fingers crossed this technology moves forward at pace! You may just get your ute

Taxes might increase, servicing might increase, fuel might go up, but if anyone thinks the government won’t be coming for electric/ alternative fuel car buyers, I have a bridge to sell.

This government has given a timeline, the bridge is still for sale to those who believe that too.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

Taxes might increase, servicing might increase, fuel might go up, but if anyone thinks the government won’t be coming for electric/ alternative fuel car buyers, I have a bridge to sell.

This government has given a timeline, the bridge is still for sale to those who believe that too.

And the bridge word is the current labour gov will re introduce a toll and both ways !
Bugga these alternative run green labour govs.


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[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

They don't need to have that experience, they just need to listen to the people who operate in that space and listen to their concerns.

Which they invited industry to contribute to, provide feedback, then subsequently ignored it all and made their own decisions.

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Thats South Pacific Tyres talking to the federal government in 2002.

Then again in 2005 over a proposed Chinese-Australia FTA (see what is now CHAFTA)

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A review of the Thailand - Australia FTA by a university:



So congratulations, we facilitated the expansion of Japanese and American auto manufacturers into Thailand to service the Australian market, in exchange for losing our own manufacturing industries.

You don't need to be an expert in something, you just need to recognise, take feedback from and make your decisions on the advice of those who are - being a politician, is the same as being a good manager, its all about relationship management.

They opened up to consultation from the industry, and then ignored it.

If anyone actually wants to debate this from an informed position, plenty of information out there from 20+ years ago that appears on the first page of Google, all from manufacturers who are now long gone.

Great post there Franco, I have no idea what the goals of DFAT were, we eradicated our manufacturers for what? Hoping to curry favour and influence with mercantilists? Anyway, it'll be one for the textbooks.

I've seen within defence publications a thousand day window before conflict mentioned, we might need tyres for the vehicles we will need to produce.

see here:

https://navalinstitute.com.au/more-n...aukus-arrives/

This one is excellent strategy too, off topic, we will need to ensure supply, not trade, by the sea. Enough ships - which we thankfully are building - to control parts of the sea at certain times (convoy) to get materials through:

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-in...eaborne-supply

[jpd80]

Back on topic,
Ford beginning its pivot away from heavy reliance of next Gen F150 BEVs to smaller BEVs.
If you don’t like a Ford plan, just wait six or nine months….

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a61699...ese-batteries/


Due to the larger batteries required in big BEVs, the profit goes down compared to
smaller BEVs. So now the hunt is on to find the sweet spot that enough buyers will
sign up for…….

In the meantime, I think it’s important that Ford still have a plan that includes small to
Mid- sized vehicles that have really good efficiency but also double down on electrification
with things like more hybrids and PHEV, they probably make more sense for our market
in being able to reach more buyers.

[Sprintey]

I came across this and was reminded that there was a time before when the big US automakers saw market demand for smaller compact cars, and delivered really good ones that were very popular:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANPpnx0qbIo

They've done it before.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

I came across this and was reminded that there was a time before when the big US automakers saw market demand for smaller compact cars, and delivered really good ones that were very popular:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANPpnx0qbIo

They've done it before.

The 70s' fuel crisis helped.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Great post there Franco, I have no idea what the goals of DFAT were, we eradicated our manufacturers for what? Hoping to curry favour and influence with mercantilists? Anyway, it'll be one for the textbooks.

Firstly, a lot of politicians are stupid, and others rely on advice from bureaucrats and technocrats that are so ideologically bent they can lick their own *****.

Smart politicians are almost more dangerous, because all they care about is votes, and they know that the easiest way to garner votes is via deception.
Like all the "Greens" voters who are happy to live their prosperous lifestyles, in a country that owes 100% of it's wealth and prosperity to the very industries they claim to hate.

Australia Federal Politicians face a huge challenge. Imagine the feeling of being elected Prime Minister. Finally achieving your lifelong ambition. Only to realise that the most of the world leaders don't know or care who you are.
At least when the Libs go crawling to the USA and UK, it makes sense. But when our leaders prostate themselves trying to get recognition from other countries, it's just embarrassing.

There is NO such thing (internationally) as a Free Market. Literally NONE of the conditions are met. Doesn't stop the pollies prattling on about it, or constantly running around trying to sign "FTA"s.

Ultimately, having a technologically advanced Manufacturing Sector, is a political decision. If your government isn't willing to incentivise it, there are plenty of other Countries that will.
That's why countries like China and South Korea, who 100 years ago were still trying to master basket-weaving and wok-making, now lead the world in many sectors. 60+ years ago Australian Universities were at the forefront of world research in many technologies. And our Asian neighbours sent their best and brightest here to learn and take that knowledge home. Now we lead the world in Inclusivity and Breakdancing Studies, and the only students coming here are just trying to rort immigration.

Sadly, neither side sees any votes to be won in supporting manufacturing. The libs are still butt-hurt from seeing Australian Manufacturing dominated by Welsh Communists. And the Labor party is only interested in chasing Green Votes.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

60+ years ago Australian Universities were at the forefront of world research in many technologies. And our Asian neighbours sent their best and brightest here to learn and take that knowledge home. Now we lead the world in Inclusivity and Breakdancing Studies, and the only students coming here are just trying to rort immigration.

Sadly, neither side sees any votes to be won in supporting manufacturing. The libs are still butt-hurt from seeing Australian Manufacturing dominated by Welsh Communists. And the Labor party is only interested in chasing Green Votes.

Now our education institutions are just immigration scams who hand out degrees like lollies to foreign students who can't even speak English, but they pay a shitload to transition their temporary visa to permanent residency then Australian citizenship.

It wont be long before Australian education institutions will be like Indian ones where they're bullshit available to the highest bidder.

We've got over 2 million foreign 'students' in Australia at the moment taking place in this scam on 'temporary' visas trying to transition to PR/Citizenship - they had a couple huge protests in Melbourne recently demanding the rights to stay here.

Government is keen on this bullshit because they become voters for their party, while they sell me and your children down the river.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

That's why countries like China and South Korea, who 100 years ago were still trying to master basket-weaving and wok-making, now lead the world in many sectors. 60+ years ago Australian Universities were at the forefront of world research in many technologies. And our Asian neighbours sent their best and brightest here to learn and take that knowledge home. Now we lead the world in Inclusivity and Breakdancing Studies, and the only students coming here are just trying to rort immigration.

Damn straight, check this out

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/10/s...ntl/index.html

Australia taking on the world and coming out on top! Makes you proud to be Australian.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Now our education institutions are just immigration scams who hand out degrees like lollies to foreign students who can't even speak English, but they pay a shitload to transition their temporary visa to permanent residency then Australian citizenship.

It wont be long before Australian education institutions will be like Indian ones where they're bullshit available to the highest bidder.

We've got over 2 million foreign 'students' in Australia at the moment taking place in this scam on 'temporary' visas trying to transition to PR/Citizenship - they had a couple huge protests in Melbourne recently demanding the rights to stay here.

Government is keen on this bullshit because they become voters for their party, while they sell me and your children down the river.

The worst bit is for the local young people at uni, one of my children got to be the aussie in the group assignment, guess who does all the work in English so everyone passes? End group assignments, enforce English competency.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Now our education institutions are just immigration scams who hand out degrees like lollies to foreign students who can't even speak English, but they pay a shitload to transition their temporary visa to permanent residency then Australian citizenship.

It wont be long before Australian education institutions will be like Indian ones where they're bullshit available to the highest bidder.

We've got over 2 million foreign 'students' in Australia at the moment taking place in this scam on 'temporary' visas trying to transition to PR/Citizenship - they had a couple huge protests in Melbourne recently demanding the rights to stay here.

Government is keen on this bullshit because they become voters for their party, while they sell me and your children down the river.

Saw on the news the other night that these university students are having trouble getting accommodation,
seems like all the previous rentals have become airBnBs and universities are going to have to find or have
more housing built. Funny how things have a way of working out……

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

The worst bit is for the local young people at uni, one of my children got to be the aussie in the group assignment, guess who does all the work in English so everyone passes? End group assignments, enforce English competency.

Was a scam going on for the foreign nationals over a decade ago during my first apprenticeship, they had the international guys doing certs at $50K+ a semester, for visa scams.

Its been rorted for over a decade now, absolute joke.

But hey, looking forward to a Fiesta EV or something if Ford USA is demanding small BEVs

Give me a Fiesta EV with 160KW/400NM at the front wheels, 500km+ range would be nice.