Torana rumours getting louder again

[Pub247]

Originally Posted by Nikked

TT36 was just a VE styling study...but based on prototype Alpha architecture.

Your point is?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Pub247

Your point is?

If it was just a styling exercise, they wouldn't have bothered developing a unique and new chassis for it
albeit heavily borrowed from Kappa platform....

[Ben73]

Doesn't look to bad, overall

But I hate the look of the chevy badge. It has to be one of the ugliest vehicle badges getting around.
If I ever bought a REAL chevy, I would debadge it.

[basteve]

Com'on Ford bring back the Cortina!

[Chopped]

[HUNTER8]

Ford's marketing department must be pulling their hair out over articles like this.
WHEELS magazine comes up with an IDEA that Holden are considering releasing a car that is only a CONCEPT that has NOT been approved for production nor export to Australia and is considered UNWORTHY of the TORANA badge by someone in the know in Australia and it gets splattered all over the media.
The media is sooooo biased in this country that if Mike Devereaux scratched his left testicle it'd be on the front page of every paper in the country.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by HUNTER8

Ford's marketing department must be pulling their hair out over articles like this.
WHEELS magazine comes up with an IDEA that Holden are considering releasing a car that is only a CONCEPT that has NOT been approved for production nor export to Australia and is considered UNWORTHY of the TORANA badge by someone in the know in Australia and it gets splattered all over the media.
The media is sooooo biased in this country that if Mike Devereaux scratched his left testicle it'd be on the front page of every paper in the country.

Why doesn't ford pull its finger out and scratch their own testical...


Might get some exposure then hey!

[HUNTER8]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Why doesn't ford pull its finger out and scratch their own testical...


Might get some exposure then hey!

How it works is that companies put out "press releases" which is then up to the editor of the paper as to where it gets printed. These aren't paid advertisements but a "story" put forward by a company.
Holden "press releases" generally end up on the front page or very near to.
Ford releases seem to end up in the motoring section or buried between classified ads and births deaths and marriages.

[Nikked]

Ford arn't really giving anything out there to put up?

I remember when the terri was released, there was a Wheels special with articals from first concepts through to First road tests...

Holden have sprung back from talk of dead commodores and packing up australia, to new commodores, toranas and more.


Ford havn't done anything strong about the future of the falcon....or anything else really. Not even much of a fuss about the Ranger, Diesel terri or 4 banger falcon.


I've come across other car forums where poeple thought that the 4L had been dropped for a V6, and that the Supercharged FPV's was a dealer option pack....

[HUNTER8]

[QUOTE=Nikked]Ford arn't really giving anything out there to put up?

QUOTE]

How do you know that Ford aren't doing press releases the same as Holden?
Because the press aren't publishing them?

[Fiesta_Man69]

Wheels sell more magazines when either a Ford or Holden (preferably with a V8) is on the cover. Doesn't matter if it's a loose concept that will never make production (indeed on the cover it does say "Wheels Image"). Slap the monika "Torana" and this edition will fly off the shelves: but I do agree - a rear wheel drive "Cortina" response from Ford would be excellent indeed (but won't happen).

[GTpilot]

Originally Posted by HUNTER8

Ford's marketing department must be pulling their hair out over articles like this.
WHEELS magazine comes up with an IDEA that Holden are considering releasing a car that is only a CONCEPT that has NOT been approved for production nor export to Australia and is considered UNWORTHY of the TORANA badge by someone in the know in Australia and it gets splattered all over the media.
The media is sooooo biased in this country that if Mike Devereaux scratched his left testicle it'd be on the front page of every paper in the country.

That's because it would sell magazines, as all the Holden loving muppets love mike and his testicles, just like they will love the abomination this thread is about.

[MethodX]

Hopefully they make it, but without that grille of course.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Chopped

image

holden's bmw is an interesting line
i thought the vd . . . errr the ve was their bmw

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

Wheels sell more magazines when either a Ford or Holden (preferably with a V8) is on the cover. Doesn't matter if it's a loose concept that will never make production (indeed on the cover it does say "Wheels Image"). Slap the monika "Torana" and this edition will fly off the shelves: but I do agree - a rear wheel drive "Cortina" response from Ford would be excellent indeed (but won't happen).

Maybe because Ford doesn't promote imagination and fancy as a reality, and wouldn't endorse an article that did just that.

[washoutbeach]

Its a complete and utter dog of a design.

The windows look like they were drafted by some 1970's schoolkid during a break in his maths exam.

I hope the General spend hundreds of millions on it, builds the wretched thing in outer eastern mongolia ( paying a former yak herder 20 cents a day) and nobody wants to buy it.

For us, we need a return of the mighty Escort to blow this prissy nancy-boy racer off the road.

VF Commodore? -No thanks Sir, Id rather walk.

Ford=FTW.

[FPV8U]

I love the original V8 Toranas, But that is not a Torana.. thats an ugly POS.

[Chopped]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

holden's bmw is an interesting line
i thought the vd . . . errr the ve was their bmw

I think the reference is that this 130 looks alot like the 135 BMW or 1M



But the 130 looks worse and no doubt is.....

[Nikked]

Late last year this Chevy was in the media touted as a BMW competitor....

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Chopped

I think the reference is that this 130 looks alot like the 135 BMW or 1M

image

But the 130 looks worse and no doubt is.....

agree, but i was just having another cheap shot at holden's ability to copy - which is second to none


the car in question is very much like the first torana - but ugly. let's hope it's performance is as bad - it will still sell though . . . baaa

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by HUNTER8

Ford's marketing department must be pulling their hair out over articles like this.
WHEELS magazine comes up with an IDEA that Holden are considering releasing a car that is only a CONCEPT that has NOT been approved for production nor export to Australia and is considered UNWORTHY of the TORANA badge by someone in the know in Australia and it gets splattered all over the media.
The media is sooooo biased in this country that if Mike Devereaux scratched his left testicle it'd be on the front page of every paper in the country.

This was one of the most pathetic articles Wheels has ever written, its nothing but a poor joke.

The Chevy is a concept that has not been approved for production, and possibly won't ever be, yet Wheels has now taken that and now Holden will be making it the next Torana, even though its not even scheduled for production, nor even considered for RHD, and its fitted with a tiny 1.4 litre 4 cylinder which Wheels has now taken to mean it will be the next A9X fitted with both V6's and V8's.

Ford will soon be releasing a new GT40, based on the Transit with 4 foot lopped off the roof line and with a higher powered GT500 V8 shoved in the middle of the cargo bay, and it will be built in Broadmeadows and sold in Oz as the GTHO.

Its just about as feasible as the Torana.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

This was one of the most pathetic articles Wheels has ever written, its nothing but a poor joke.

The Chevy is a concept that has not been approved for production, and possibly won't ever be, yet Wheels has now taken that and now Holden will be making it the next Torana, even though its not even scheduled for production, nor even considered for RHD, and its fitted with a tiny 1.4 litre 4 cylinder which Wheels has now taken to mean it will be the next A9X fitted with both V6's and V8's.

Ford will soon be releasing a new GT40, based on the Transit with 4 foot lopped off the roof line and with a higher powered GT500 V8 shoved in the middle of the cargo bay, and it will be built in Broadmeadows and sold in Oz as the GTHO.

Its just about as feasible as the Torana.

Wheels likes to sell magazines. when they released covers with a new Magna or Camry on the cover sales dropped something like 15% I remember.
Business is business.

[washoutbeach]

Its the new JL Camira!

[jixel 78]

Sooo Nissan want to go Supercar-ing again and a little bit of wee came out so Torana pops up again.

[HUNTER8]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Wheels likes to sell magazines. when they released covers with a new Magna or Camry on the cover sales dropped something like 15% I remember.
Business is business.

Maybe so but if their standards are like this perhaps Wheels should be sold in the comics section

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Wheels likes to sell magazines. when they released covers with a new Magna or Camry on the cover sales dropped something like 15% I remember.
Business is business.

But they have taken it so far out of the relme of credibility by simply making up BS to sell mags, surely there is a limit to how far you to can stretch the imagination before you border on munipulating the buying public?

[4.0i OHC]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

But they have taken it so far out of the relme of credibility by simply making up BS to sell mags, surely there is a limit to how far you to can stretch the imagination before you border on munipulating the buying public?

Couldn't agree more. Wheels has well and truly lost their credibility in my view. The never-ending 'FWD Falcon' and 'FPV Taurus' articles simply infuriate me, due to the damage that they cause the Ford brand in the eyes of the public. Wheels is not alone in this activity.
When I went to visit my parents over the Christmas break, my mother started talking to me about the death of the Falcon in 2016 (saying that she saw this information in the newspapers). This is a woman in her late forties who has never shown any interest in cars in her life. Don't worry, I explained everything to her. The 'smear Ford at all costs' tactic (stolen from the left side of politics no doubt) appears to be working, and I for one am sick of it.
I'm definitely preaching to the choir here, but it absolutely baffles me as to why Ford gets this kind of treatment in the media.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by 4.0i OHC

The never-ending 'FWD Falcon' and 'FPV Taurus' articles simply infuriate me,

The 'smear Ford at all costs' tactic (stolen from the left side of politics no doubt) appears to be working, and I for one am sick of it.
I'm definitely preaching to the choir here, but it absolutely baffles me as to why Ford gets this kind of treatment in the media.

Well ford haven't given a clear indication of a RWD falcon...hence the FWD falcon stories.

If ford put out some vauge stories about a Mid-sized RWD mustang based car and a LWD falcon variants Wheels would latch on to it and call the mid -sizer a cortina..

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

But they have taken it so far out of the relme of credibility by simply making up BS to sell mags, surely there is a limit to how far you to can stretch the imagination before you border on munipulating the buying public?

Maybe they do go a bit far.
But that car is rumored to be being produced in the states, to convert the anti car generation to cars.
I dont like the wheels rednering, the normal red one looks a lot better.

In the 80's when ford could do no wrong leading sales charts and winning Aus design awards and holden was seen as the brand that could do no right did you guys complain?

[HUNTER8]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Well ford haven't given a clear indication of a RWD falcon...hence the FWD falcon stories.

If ford put out some vauge stories about a Mid-sized RWD mustang based car and a LWD falcon variants Wheels would latch on to it and call the mid -sizer a cortina..

So are you saying that just because Ford haven't given a clear indication of what it will be doing in 3 to 4 years time then it's OK for journalists to "invent" a story. And you think Ford should "invent" another story about a possible car so that Wheels can have the "new cortina" on it's front cover?

Personally if I'm reading an article about any car I would prefer it was based on fact rather than fantasy.