Disgusted and Outraged

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by muppet

What about the talk on there about getting the girl back for getting them in trouble. I dont think these pin heads realise the huge pile of poo they have got themselves in and I dont think they realise what would happen to them if they did go after the girl.

Yep, I can't believe that they'd want to get people back because they've done something wrong.

I also find it hard to believe that they're going to support this guy even though what he did was 120% wrong.

[Dazza XLT]

I won't post the article here, but just spotted this on Ninemsn
Police raid Werribee home over abuse DVD
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=155021

[GTjake]

4.9,
Yours is certainly the voice of reason. You obviously have faith in the criminal justice system.

I, and it seems an awful lot of others do not anymore.
Far too often the criminal is let off or receives an astoundingly light sentence.
Whats 'life' in prison these days? 7 years with parole! What a *** joke. A sick joke.

You say let the police do there jobs. Fair 'nuff. I have no doubt they will.
The courts however will likely let as all down again. I would be happy to be proven wrong.
The judges and prosecutors are the ones failing us. Not the lawyers.

Checks and balances eh?
A security guard is charged with murder for shooting a robber?
A known crime boss shoots a known hitman with an illegal firearm and is charged with murder?
Sorry, balances?

You live in fairyland if you think everything is OK 'cause the government is looking after us.

[Kapn_Kiwi]

I agree with 4.9. Whilst these are truly despicable acts, vigilante justice surely is even worse than the too-lenient system you guys are putting down. As Gandhi said, An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
After reading that guy's myspace, I'm thinking these kids are half revelling in it, half shitting themselves. I'm hoping these kids at the very least see the inside of a jail cell.
And, somehow, I doubt that girl was enjoying 12 guys urinating on her. I find it highly unlikely that she'd be willing to undertake some of the other stuff described, but being set alight and being urinated on aren't things I'd think many people would enjoy. Just my own justification for presumption of guilt.

[boss-290]

this quote is sickening....

they have just helped u the **** outtttt nowyou c an sell so more ******* copies because you got free advertising hahaaaaaaa wooooooo and if they try any funny **** you can use the money to fight them hey man ill hook my cousins in romania up aswell we will get this shi world wide hahahah we are thugs in the making picking o ppl that cant efend themselves onto us hahahha what a gay ****ig ***** soooooooooo anyway when is **** the movie 2 comming out

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by GTjake

4.9,
Yours is certainly the voice of reason. You obviously have faith in the criminal justice system.

I, and it seems an awful lot of others do not anymore.
Far too often the criminal is let off or receives an astoundingly light sentence.
Whats 'life' in prison these days? 7 years with parole! What a *** joke. A sick joke.

You say let the police do there jobs. Fair 'nuff. I have no doubt they will.
The courts however will likely let as all down again. I would be happy to be proven wrong.
The judges and prosecutors are the ones failing us. Not the lawyers.

Checks and balances eh?
A security guard is charged with murder for shooting a robber?
A known crime boss shoots a known hitman with an illegal firearm and is charged with murder?
Sorry, balances?

You live in fairyland if you think everything is OK 'cause the government is looking after us.

Hi Jake.

I actually have dwindling faith in the system, but accept and agree with the importance of the principles involved.

A security guard is charged with murder for shooting a robber?

A security guard was also charged with killing David Hookes. Nothing is black and white. On face value, both scenarios would appear to be similar.

So.. jake, we should allow you to decide who is charged with what? And what punishment will be administered? And i'm the one living a fairy tale?

I think not.

This, my friend, is exactly what the system is designed to prevent. And i for one am glad.

The system is not perfect, but it's far superior to what you're proposing.

[xe351]

i hope they are all found guilty and put into tiny jail cells with a big homosexual rapist

[Scareybear]

Originally Posted by Yellow Fire

The myspace page for the director of the movie. The comments section is full of girls supporting him. Strange town.

click

One way for us all let him know how we feel....

[GTjake]

4.9,
strange you equate someones dissatisfaction with the courts as an urge to become a dictator.
I propose no system but the one which was intended.
That everyone may seek justice and have faith it will be imposed fairly for all. No matter how much money you do or dont have.
Thats it.

BTW Whats with your inferral that the girl may have led them on therefore this should be taken into account?

[Poetic Justice]

It's just hard to figure out how a persons brain can trigger the ability to do such a thing to hurt another person. Why can't people live their own life, enjoy their life for the good things that can be around?

HOW can one person decide another person should be treated in such a way?

I don't believe in such retaliation, but I'd love to even get the kids who did it remotely close to feeling what she might have felt to show them what they are doing.

[GTjake]

Why do they do these things?
IMNSHO:
(a) they're evil
(b) they can

[hoppo366]

Originally Posted by GTjake

Why do they do these things?
IMNSHO:
(a) they're evil
(b) they can

I'd say its because there evil not just because they can, anyine can do anyhting if they won't its our morals and fear of punishment that stop us.

[BJ]

All I want is five minutes with them, thats all. Bj

[Dazza XLT]

I never had to do anything like this for "Fun" when I was growing up.
Attacking people like this for fun... Makes you wonder what goes thru the minds of these sick people. And then to put it on DVD... Did they really expect to get away with it? :togo:
These youth are the future of Australia... Not much to look forward to if you ask me.

Cheers

Darran

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by Darran

These youth are the future of Australia... Not much to look forward to if you ask me.

I'm leaving the country then... stuff having those little bastards serving me at supermarkets, cinemas, being mechanics, computer technicians, you name it.

[MISTA FIESTA]

I have an opinion, concidering they (the peoples who did the dvd + the community of werribee who support there actions) why not humiliate all of em in one go concidering they have destroyed the life of a young girl. Violence is not the way to solve it.

SHould get the pictures of these kids with a first name and do a bulk email out to people around the globe telling em what the scum of werribee has done to an innocent girl. Why not destroy there lives if the law is obviously got gonna do it??

[phoon]

De nut the little p#icks, like they do to dogs when they are to aggressive. If thats where the kids of today are heading, then I weap for the the future. Its an absolute disgrace.

[OLDFORDNUT]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

"I dont condone violence but...."

Certainly a despicable act - no one in their right mind would argue against that. But to call for murder, torture etc - it's not appropriate. Turbotaxi, your comments are very apt and well put - thankyou for bringing some clarity into the topic.

We have a system. You cant single out a particular crime to be treated differently, regardless of how emotional it would make some people.

As a system, you need to remove emotion and some elements of judgement. The fact that this case of abuse was so sickening does not mean it should be treated differently to any other similar crime that had different circumstances.

The law needs to be blind to certain things. Emotion is one of these.



Well it's the concept of "checks and balances" isnt it? The system needs 'qualifiers' built into it. Unfortunately such things will be abused and treated like loopholes by fancy lawyers - but they're still important to have.

You need the system to cater for mental disabilities, due process by police etc.

If such checks and balances were removed from the judicial system, there would be outrage on AFF and rightly so.

You would praise and thank this system that "gives a criminal more rights than a victim" if you were wrongly arrested or if one of your actions was taken out of context.

GTJoe - if "the average joe blow" does decide to take a matter into his/her own hands then i hope they are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The police have the right to police - you do not.

Even the most distgusting pieces of scum in this country deserve a fair trial.

for ***** sake go hop back under your warm and cosy doona,
some things are just too bad to be left to you do gooders, thats the reason this world is so ***** up thr do gooders like you who preach love and harmony instead of taking action.
Its about time we had a referendum to discus and implement whats right instead of all these little fairy type nonsense the do gooders have implemented into our laws over last twenty years.
JUST because a LAW is in place does not mean its something that should be respected ,and the only times we can change some of the more rediculous ones are by protest and action

[Charliewool]

Sent the link of his home page to Mitchell on 3AW...

[Bucket]

Pictures of the Boys on the Front Page of Newspapers arround Australia with the Caption in big bold writing... "MONSTERS"

[MISTA FIESTA]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Pictures of the Boys on the Front Page of Newspapers arround Australia with the Caption in big bold writing... "MONSTERS"

See now thats some good constructive humiliation. Point is put across with no physical damage done.

[OLDFORDNUT]

also on another angle, we are all perfectly within the law to show the little pricks faces ,(NO ONE CAN BE SUED) they did this all by themselves when they sold their first DVD into the open domain,
hahaha lol you gotta love that one.
they have signed away any protection they might have had .hahaha
i love it.stupid little filthy ******

[Casper]

I think that all that can be said has now been said.
It was a truely disgusting and evil act, of that we all have no doubt, however I think we have to now leave it in the hands of the authorities and hope these little animals get whats coming to them.