Time to rant

[tickford302]

Originally Posted by geckoxr8

hope she got a great big bowl of ice cream after that.

Sorry no ice cream, but does a few Krispy Cream dohnuts count.

[geckoGT]

That'll do!

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by tickford302

Well,well,well B2TFhow quick we are to judge the parents of a child

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Yeah not at all actually! Wasnt doing that.

You mention that you are 19 so you have how many children?

Uh, none? Like I said in my post? :

If any, then you should realise what we as parents are actually feeling, blood is more of what we are after as apposed to money, and no amount of money can make up for seeing one of your children suffering at the hands of another person,IF and when this evers happens to you you can post here what you are feeling and i guarentee you it wouldnt be to just get an appology.We want the teachers and yes the school as they employ the teachers to be held accountable for this and IF this leads to their hip pocket then so be it.

Yep, if it does Ill certainly give you a call.

Look to be honest I think Ive missed your point in your original post and vice versa. I'll leave it at this but I will say I dont appreciate you coming back on here and coming up with a post like this. Not once did I say I was judging you at all. The joy of the Internet.

Anyway, as I said, I will end my involvement in this thread at that.

[Shonky]

^^ Bye... ^^

[tickford302]

Originally Posted by back2thefutura

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Look to be honest I think Ive missed your point in your original post and vice versa. I'll leave it at this but I will say I dont appreciate you coming back on here and coming up with a post like this. Not once did I say I was judging you at all. The joy of the Internet.

Still in a majorly pi##ed off state of mind, didnt mean to offend, maybe i was reading more in to it than i should have. I see your point with these pathetic attempts to try and win money through claims ( i.e slipping and landing on your **** in a shopping centre ) and then trying to sue for millions, hello America, but this is something that could have been avoided with a simple phone call, but now can affect the rest of her life and considering she is only 5 thats at very long time.

[RUQ1KA]

i say go for the media. contact all the affair shows, etc and bring that school down.. also i wouldnt make them give you free schooling, i'd just get the $$$ off them and put it towards a new school,

cause you can't really teach an old dog new tricks

and way i hope she gets well soon

[MO]

I'm going to make a point for back2thefutura,You really don't know how serious a broken femur is do you...worst case scenario you bleed out into your soft tissue and DIE..because no one sought medical aid,this happens in a matter of hours.

In this case the youngun was lucky it was not that bad...because if it had been she would not be with us now,given the time the break occured and the time to pick up after school. About three hours, more than enough time for worst case scenario to occur.

I would suggest you go and do a first aid course with St.Johns,this will help you to understand the severity of life threatening injuries and I hope you have plenty of public liability cover for your AFD,you may need it.

[MITCHAY]

People sue for money cause thats where it hurts most and where a lesson might be learnt as its costly.

Yes its appropiate for money to be sort after its just when its an outrageous sum that its pathetic (ie i think that guy that russel crowe "assaulted" wants 2.3 million : if it had of been any other guy there is no way in hell they would be asking for that ).

If im not mistaken these private school teachers get a sh*t load of cash compared to public teachers. Its unacceptable in ANY school let alone a private school for this sort of thing to happen where parents assume they are providing the best for their children.

[FRDGAL]

Originally Posted by back2thefutura

I'm all for an apology and reimbursement for medial costs but I think some people who have replied need to take a step back and think.

Admittedly I have never been in a situation like this but I hardly feel running to the lawyers and demanding compo is going to help. As i said, a very sincere apology and reimbursement for medical costs is more than appropriate, but as for this constant money grabbing people seem to be doing more and more these days, well to be honest it ****es me off.

Say that you do take the school on and win. The school would more than likely lose its insurer, meaning they have to find another one. That means more costs, and who pays the costs of a school? You guessed it - the parents. So even if you do get bucketloads of money from the school, what is that going to achieve?

FAR too often these days people will go staright for whats in it for them. People make mistakes, sometimes very serious ones like this one is. But you can bet your **** that ANY half decent teacher with common sense will make sure it NEVER happens again, and as i said, you can also bet that if you do get money out of them, things will end up being worse than they already are.

Same with events - Im organising the AFD for Wagga. If somebody trips and falls, and sues me, what happens? Im stuffed, probably broke (and at age 19 that doesnt appeal to me), the show will never happen again and that means the only person who 'won' as such, is the person who fell over. Meanwhile, Im broke, and all you guys are left without a show to come to cos we cant afford it anymore. Win Win? I think not.

I see your point and I understand what you're saying...

When you're a parent - you become visciously protective of your children (I know I am) and the reason I suggested seeking legal advice is because someone has to be held responsible for what's happened and my own personal opinion is that the Kinder should be liable for any medical costs at the very least. That's the reason that I suggested legal advice. (I am sure they would have some type of liability insurance and it'd be for reason's like this)

Why should this young girl have to go through something like this? How dare the teachers ignore what happened?! The Kinder had a duty of care to this girl. They neglected an important responsibility - that cannot be ignored! Someone has to be held accountable for this. You can't send the child home with a simple "there there you'll be right".

You said "People make mistakes, sometimes very serious ones like this one is" Your child has a fall and they don't atleast ring the parent/s to suggest they pick them up? Come onnnn ... that's not a mistake, that's neglect!! It's blatant ignorance to the situation is what it is.

My kids have private cover so ok if something happened to them at school they're covered but I would still go after the school for something. Why? Because my child would deserve it. My child would have a right to compensation but I don't just mean money, I mean compensation in the way of tuition fees or books or...

I feel very strongly about things like this so I could go on and on but I won't. As far as I'm concerned, our life is our own and no-one has the right to neglectfully impact it without consequence - nobody! By the way, I wasn't having a go at you at all so I hope you didn't take it the wrong way. As I already said, I understand your points but when you're a parent - you tend to see situations like this through aggressive eyes mate - regardless of whether it's your own child or someone else's!

Krissy.

[gtfpv]

mate this thread brings me to tears.i am anti payback . but in this case there is grose neglect. her teacher should be dissmissed simple as that. fees should be paid ( medical ) principle should be put on notice.and this school policy needs to be audited. go for the neck .you mentioned it has happenned twice . that justifies today tonight. what about the trauma your girl has suffered .i have to leave this post now. good luck i hope she is ok.

[FRDGAL]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

and this school policy needs to be audited

Here's a simple policy "RING THE PARENT/S"!! Geeezus _

I have to leave this thread arrgghhhh (lol)

[The MaDDeSTMaN]

I don't think there is anything I can say that hasn't already been said, so I'll leave it at this: I hope things turn out for the best for you and ALL of your family tickford302, and I also hope that this experience doesn't make your daughter dread school or simply not want to go, what a horrible thing to happen to somebody so young!

Best of luck, and if there's anything any of us can do to help n any way, let us know, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be only too happy to help if I can in any way...

[Casper]

ok heres a thought if you neglected your own child would be taken away from you by docs. so how come they can do it???

[Casper]

Woops i forgot to sign in its actually from mrs casper.

I'll play devil's advocate.

Why didn't you go for immediate medical attention rather than waiting for the next day. If you as parents weren't concerned enough, why should the school be.


That said, the school failed miserably in their duty of care to your child and steps should be taken to ensure the school puts in place procedures to ensure it never happens again..
Been there and done that, and let me tell you, the school really start panicing when then think you may be taking legal action against them.

[tickford302]

Originally Posted by devil cv8

I'll play devil's advocate.

Why didn't you go for immediate medical attention rather than waiting for the next day. If you as parents weren't concerned enough, why should the school be

Point taken, when she was carried out of school by her mum because walking was too painful, she was taken home. As mentioned before my wife is a Registered Nurse and also a Clinical nurse specialist, my wife then proceeded to ask questions regarding the pain i.e type of pain,position of pain, how she fell, how she landed, fairly basic questions of which the school could have asked.After all that was assessed she examined the area for bruising, swelling, pulses in groin, leg and foot, limb temperature compared to the other( its a bit like living with a trauma surgeon..lol..), we made her comfortable on her bed,from that point on she didnt weight bare on that leg anymore, she was carried to toilet etc.We then contacted the hospital and with it being winter, raining,and government staffing etc there was going to be a 6 hour wait for her in casualty, we as the parents decided(as it is our decision) to not put her through anymore than she had already been through for that day, instead we hit the chemist for Painstop(quite potent pain killer for children).Arrangments were made for our son to be taken to school by a friend the next day and my wife had our daughter to the doctor as soon as his doors were open,we chose our doctor as he works in his spare time in casualty and would know the correct steps for us to take. The rest as you know has since been posted here.
We were concerned obviously but with my wifes background everything that could be done was, with exception of an x-ray.

you explained that very well, and I thank you for it. Sometimes you need someone to play devil's advocate so everything that is relevent is out in the open. If you haven't already, I'd suggest putting in writing everything that has happened, as that will allow you to not skip anything when you are dealing with the school or solicitor if that is what you decide to do.

I hope your daughter recovers from this with as little physical and mental anguish as possible...(and the same for you and your wife as well)

[tickford302]

Update: we have seen the Ortopeadic specialist and he reckons that there will be no perminent damage from the break, thankfully. Still waiting to hear from the school we have contacted them on several occations but still nothing back and we have also sent in the Assosiation for indepent schools on our behalf so hopefully we will get some joy there, dont know if the school has gone into damage control or if they just dont give a rats, anyway only time will tell, and thanks again for all your concerns.

[MO]

I would think damage control,they're probably getting their story straight.
Even if their not and are running scared is no excuse they should of had the common decency to respond to your first contact.

Given the attitude of the school......go for the throat!!!!

[Keepleft]

Tickford 302 wrote "**** in a shopping centre ) and then trying to sue for millions, hello America".

Actually, Australians are per capita far more litigious. You however do have a case, but seek that advice first.

Take this link to read about 'diving' accidents and insurance payouts.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/...es/s820254.htm