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Old 29-09-2005, 10:08 PM   #1
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Default Does an ECU get "run in", and do ICS's "stick"?

I'm getting to near the end of my patience.

Those who remember my prevous post re dizzy or coil may like to know that in the end it was ECU sending out wrong voltages to the ignition module. The wiring was absolutely FKKED and so a new loom and ECU was installed.

1) The car runs really rough now: very unsteady idle.

Mechanic advised that the ISC needs replacing as it "sticks". ie When he knocked it with a screwdriver, it went from 1500RPM down to a normal idle.

Later on, on the way home, the car wouldn't go above 2500RPM in 2nd gear, but when I changed gear, I could go above that. Sticky ICS?

2) Since it has a new ECU, how long does it take to "learn"?

How can I tell that they put the correct ECU in? Is there a code, etc on the ECU itself?

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Old 29-09-2005, 10:13 PM   #2
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ISC shouldn't do anything to normal driving.
they do get sticky and require a good clean or replacement, but a good clean can usually free them up but that'll only effect the idle speed.
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Old 29-09-2005, 10:28 PM   #3
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I'm getting to near the end of my patience.

Those who remember my prevous post re dizzy or coil may like to know that in the end it was ECU sending out wrong voltages to the ignition module. The wiring was absolutely FKKED and so a new loom and ECU was installed.

1) The car runs really rough now: very unsteady idle.

Mechanic advised that the ISC needs replacing as it "sticks". ie When he knocked it with a screwdriver, it went from 1500RPM down to a normal idle.
Yep thats happened to me before. I Just swapped it with a spare and it was sorted. Change it
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Later on, on the way home, the car wouldn't go above 2500RPM in 2nd gear, but when I changed gear, I could go above that. Sticky ICS?
My Car did this when I had a blocked CAT. I did have a simular problem with my revs fluctuating from 2800 to 3200rpm when the ISC wasnt sealing to the Throttlebody right

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2) Since it has a new ECU, how long does it take to "learn"?

How can I tell that they put the correct ECU in? Is there a code, etc on the ECU itself?
Normally about hour after driving my ECU worked itself out.

TO check what ECU you have....
87DA - Series 1 EA
90DA - Series 2 EA / EB1
91DA - EB2
93DA - ED IIRC
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Old 29-09-2005, 10:31 PM   #4
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I remember when Sunny fried all the engine bay looms in that car. lol. I doubt that has anything to do with it, just some random info.

Good luck with it.
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Old 30-09-2005, 12:41 AM   #5
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91DA - EB2
93DA - ED IIRC
Close - 91DA - non immobilised EB2
92DA - Immobilised EB2
There are a few exceptions, eg DT ecus are tickford, the eb2 wagon/lwb pre immobilisation is 92DA as well, 93DA is the prefix for immobilised ones.

GraveDilute - What specific model do you have? I have list of all ecus here, I can easily tell you if it is correct or not.
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Old 30-09-2005, 12:46 AM   #6
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Close - 91DA - non immobilised EB2
92DA - Immobilised EB2
There are a few exceptions, eg DT ecus are tickford, the eb2 wagon/lwb pre immobilisation is 92DA as well, 93DA is the prefix for immobilised ones.

GraveDilute - What specific model do you have? I have list of all ecus here, I can easily tell you if it is correct or not.
He has Sunny's old White EA Steven
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Old 30-09-2005, 10:12 AM   #7
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I understand the ECU's are also split into manual and auto.

I just wanna check that they put a manual ECU in

DAMO, thanks for the info on the fried loom. The loom was totally FKKED, so I'm hoping for smooth driving for at least the 6 months on the mechanic's warranty.

Any ideas on the proce of an ICS?
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Old 30-09-2005, 12:26 PM   #8
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i cleaned my isc with carby cleaner bfor i put it back on with the new gas setup, didnt notice any difference
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Old 30-09-2005, 06:04 PM   #9
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The ecu you should have installed is a 90DA 12A650 A? - where ? is any letter. Alternatively if it's a series 1 or 2, it should be 87DA 12A650 A?. I am pretty sure that car is 30th anniversary?
If it is a 90DA 12A650 B? or 87DA 12A650 B? then that is an auto ecu, and yes, it's incorrect.
You should be able to run a 87DA or a 90DA in an ea series 2, 30th anniversary or EB1, but you can't run a 90DA in a series 1 EA - because of that stupid extra wire for the pip signal.


Mick: I was wrong, btw - just checked, all EB2 and ED have 91DA prefix, except for Tickford versions where sedans have 92DT and wagons have 93DT.
The ? - letter at the end - actually signifies smartlock or not.
Geez, ECU part numbers are fascinating aren't they? At least Ford EEC-IV ones make more sense than Mitsubishi ones.
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