AGE/SMH comparison of Ecoboost, traditional petrol. LPG and Hybrid

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It can tow 300kg

You could probably hook up a trailer to it but not put anything in it.

You could fill it with smug!

[XR Martin]

Yeah really only suitable for a jetski, motorbike or bicycles.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Yeah really only suitable for a jetski, motorbike or bicycles.

Or taking rubbish to the dump.
Or doing a Bunnings run.
Or moving a fridge or washing machine.
Or really just about 90% of actual trailer use by ordinary people.......

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by flappist

Or taking rubbish to the dump.
Or doing a Bunnings run.
Or moving a fridge or washing machine.
Or really just about 90% of actual trailer use by ordinary people.......

Taking up 3 parking spaces at Bunnings...

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by flappist

Or taking rubbish to the dump.
Or doing a Bunnings run.
Or moving a fridge or washing machine.
Or really just about 90% of actual trailer use by ordinary people.......

Your average 6x4 box trailer starts at 250kg, so I think you'll find the Camry isnt designed to pull them.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Taking up 3 parking spaces at Bunnings...

So your average Toyota driver then?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by flappist

Or taking rubbish to the dump.
Or doing a Bunnings run.
Or moving a fridge or washing machine.
Or really just about 90% of actual trailer use by ordinary people.......

Yes, thank you flappist, most people don't need to tow 2300 kg, something like 1200-1600 is adequate..

[Brazen]

The Camry looks like a good buy especially considering the expensive hybrid tech, as well as keyless start and reversing camera. But what were they thinking about the tow rating. Toyota stated that the biggest complaint in Australia was lack of tow rating, they said up to 80% of large cars have tow bars and they even flew Japanese engineers out to drive around Australian cities to show how many cars are towing or have tow bars. So after all that they lump it with a 300kg rating? Surely the drivetrain can handle 1000kg?

[XR Martin]

Id say its got to do with the regenerative braking system, probably cant cope with much extra load.

But as I said, most Hybrid drivers probably arnt interested in towing a car trailer with a broken down Falcon on the back. A bike rack or a jet ski is probably the most they'll use it for.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

But as I said, most Hybrid drivers probably arnt interested in towing a car trailer

they probably have 7 recycle bins and 3 for green waste.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by sudszy

Ben, just as the journalist has, you are confusing volumetric consumption with efficiency.

Basically when we are looking at the efficiency of a fuel we are looking at how much of the energy in that fuel can be converted to useful work in the engine. The figures are better for dedicated lpg engines running higher compression.

Also appreciate that per kg lpg contains more energy than petrol, so a car will travel further on a kg of lpg than petrol.

If you factor in what a car is/needs, there is a limited space to store a fuel. So considering that Petrol has more energy per volume, rather than weight, it could be argued that it is more efficient as a packaged catalyst than LPG.

[sudszy]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

it could be argued that it is more efficient as a packaged catalyst than LPG.

Certainly, as flappist pointed out, uranium would also beat either by more than just a couple of orders of magnitude for joules/kg or joules/litre, but you have lost me with the 'packaged catalyst"?

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by sudszy

Certainly, as flappist pointed out, uranium would also beat either by more than just a couple of orders of magnitude for joules/kg or joules/litre, but you have lost me with the 'packaged catalyst"?

Oh, dear! Where have you been?