Ford to put on 11,000 new workers in U.S and Asia - Page 2

P6LTD351 · 14-12-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Screw that. The last thing I would be doing is spending my money in and supporting a country which has effectively helped kill manufacturing in Australia.

You know what stevz? I don't like your attitude. It's not 1950 anymore. Your avatar says 'we're screwed'. Speak for yourself. How about you and your mates pool all your money together and buy the Ford and Holden factories so you can keep them going?

I am not happy that we're losing them, but to boycott another country isn't going to help either.

Bill M · 14-12-2013, 01:01 PM

Screwed? Well not entirely. Just wait till Gina Hancock gets her way and opens the flood gates with bringing mine workers on 457 visas. The shaft will be buried home then.

TC200six · 14-12-2013, 01:31 PM

It's just not profitable to build cars here and sales are declining. Whinge all you like, but that doesn't suddenly make it justifiable for Ford and Holden to keep building their local models.

If you don't want to associated with the company anymore, just trade your Ford in with another car and never buy a Ford again.

UberKnee · 14-12-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Screw that. The last thing I would be doing is spending my money in and supporting a country which has effectively helped kill manufacturing in Australia.

How dare they try and make money. The evil foreigner stick, its a shame that's still around in 2013, a worse shame than Aussie manufacturing ending. They didn't do a damn thing to try and ruin Australia. The foreigners aren't out to get us.

stevz · 14-12-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by P6LTD351

You know what stevz? I don't like your attitude. It's not 1950 anymore. Your avatar says 'we're screwed'. Speak for yourself. How about you and your mates pool all your money together and buy the Ford and Holden factories so you can keep them going?

I am not happy that we're losing them, but to boycott another country isn't going to help either.

You don't like my attitude? I couldn't care less, because I don't answer to you or anyone for that matter.
Perhaps if more people had an attitude like mine we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. We bend over to appease the rest of the world only to get a knife in the back every time. If other countries have a weak economy I dont see why that is Australia's problem or responsibility to fix.

P6LTD351 · 14-12-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

You don't like my attitude? I couldn't care less, because I don't answer to you or anyone for that matter.
Perhaps if more people had an attitude like mine we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. We bend over to appease the rest of the world only to get a knife in the back every time. If other countries have a weak economy I dont see why that is Australia's problem or responsibility to fix.

OK Stevz, I manage a team of people. I don't put up with whinging. I do, however, encourage my people to find out problems and focus on the SOLUTION. So what is your solution? Apart from time travelling back to 1950?

We are in a global economy now.

**DJM83** · 14-12-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by P6LTD351

OK Stevz, I manage a team of people. I don't put up with whinging. I do, however, encourage my people to find out problems and focus on the SOLUTION. So what is your solution? Apart from time travelling back to 1950?

We are in a global economy now.

Solution is to constantly harp and whine on an internet forum...

P6LTD351 · 14-12-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Solution is to constantly harp and whine on an internet forum...

Ha ha, exactly.

Nikked · 14-12-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Perhaps if more people had an attitude like mine we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

Yeah, Australia wouldn't be making any money from exports or anything, we'll have no doctors and a economy would be 100x worse...

jamies · 14-12-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Screw that. The last thing I would be doing is spending my money in and supporting a country which has effectively helped kill manufacturing in Australia.

I'm not sure if your aware but just because cars are assembled in Australia you would find there would be a lot of components made outside Aust that are used in these vehicles.. Is your TV,DVD player,mobile ph,computer are they all made in Oz ?? I reckon you'll find you have lot of overseas products in your house or that you've used. So your argument is a bit hypocritical.

P6LTD351 · 14-12-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jamies

I'm not sure if your aware but just because cars are assembled in Australia you would find there would be a lot of components made outside Aust that are used in these vehicles.. Is your TV,DVD player,mobile ph,computer are they all made in Oz ?? I reckon you'll find you have lot of overseas products in your house or that you've used. So your argument is a bit hypocritical.

No, but he gets around this by saying that he only buys things that aren't Australian made where there is no alternative. Why not go without those things though? Surely your principles mean more than enjoying a few luxuries? Hmm? I didn't think so. LOL.

Fact is, we live in a big, big world. Embrace it. Love it.

BlueOvalPrint · 14-12-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

If other countries have a weak economy I dont see why that is Australia's problem or responsibility to fix.

On the other hand:

"If Australia has a weak economy I don't see why that is other countries problem or responsibility to fix."

Works both ways, eh?

BTW did you read this on an Australian made computer/monitor/laptop/tablet/smartphone? Didn't think so. So why not chuck them out too?

ltd · 14-12-2013, 08:15 PM

Good on Ford. Good to see they're making money and that they are building cars that people want to buy.
BTW, during the GFC Alan Mulally basically saved ford from chapter 11 by getting the auto workers union in to many of their strategic meetings, making dozens of large concessions to save the company such as the lifetime pensions etc. It worked, and I proffer that this employment of more Americans is part of the negotiations that took place to save the company and jobs. Ford employees in America are really proud of the decisions made and are proud of the fact they work for ford, so it was not all pain with no gain, it is actually a remarkable success story. So much so, that GM tried to poach Alan Mulally a few years ago.
Well done Ford, pity the employment conditions in this country are not as conducive to manufacturing and export.

Note: This is not a swipe at any individual or organisation, it's been done to death and well established that over a dozen different contributing factors have caused the cessation of the auto industry in Australia.

jpd80 · 14-12-2013, 08:39 PM

The new Changan Ford JV plants in China will increase production and engine capacity there by 300,000 car per year.
Ford may have been slow starters in China but they are catching up quick smart, good to see..

One of the hopes is that as "One Ford" brings huge increases in scales of economy and profitability in major areas,
smaller regional niche areas can be covered by other products developed as extensions of those primary platforms.
I'm hoping that as part of the shake out process, we get some interesting variants on global vehicles here.
Vehicles that set Ford sedans and SUVs apart form the run of the mill competition, maybe either HP or hybrids..

Dmarc · 14-12-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Yes but in Thailand's case, not only have they taken our business, but they were also hell bent on ensuring that ours didn't succeed, as was evident with the Territory export program.
I check the label on every single product I buy and I will be boycotting anything from Thailand with a passion.

I always check out where the food I'm buying at the supermarket comes from. I try to buy Aussie made and owned where possible, but it's getting harder. I'd be interested how many on this forum do the same or even care.

jamies · 14-12-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmarc

I always check out where the food I'm buying at the supermarket comes from. I try to buy Aussie made and owned where possible, but it's getting harder. I'd be interested how many on this forum do the same or even care.

Well being Thai I buy asian food to make authentic stir frys and curry's.. Unfortunately aussie made condiments don't taste the same..

Bill M · 14-12-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by P6LTD351

No, but he gets around this by saying that he only buys things that aren't Australian made where there is no alternative. Why not go without those things though? Surely your principles mean more than enjoying a few luxuries? Hmm? I didn't think so. LOL.

Fact is, we live in a big, big world. Embrace it. Love it.

Who are you to rubbish a member who does his best to stick to his principles?

I too do my best to buy Australian where I can, I cannot do it every time but at least I and others make a bloody effort to provide some support to my country.

It is easy to slag off isn't it?
Much tougher to maintain principles that better others than just yourself.

Bill M · 14-12-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Solution is to constantly harp and whine on an internet forum...

Sounds like you are harping yourself DJ,
His solution is to support his countries manufacturing, whats yours?
Sit on your backside and whine about others whining?

stevz · 14-12-2013, 11:47 PM

Thank you Bill M. At least somebody can see common sense around here.

stevz · 14-12-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmarc

I always check out where the food I'm buying at the supermarket comes from. I try to buy Aussie made and owned where possible, but it's getting harder. I'd be interested how many on this forum do the same or even care.

I check the label of everything that I buy. A lot of the Woolworths/Coles home brand stuff is cheap but if you check the label 9 times out of 10 it is made in some cheap Asian country. Stick to brand names as most of them are Aus made.

Nikked · 15-12-2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill M

Who are you to rubbish a member who does his best to stick to his principles?

Because.

He does the best to rubbish everyone else...an this isn't The Australian National socialist Forum.