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Old 24-09-2024, 02:36 PM   #1
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Default Penrith oil

Getting confused here….brain injury doesn’t help!

Is Penrite HPR 5, full synthetic, 5W-40 ok for MC diesel?

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Only OK if no DPF.
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Thanks mate!
These web sites saying the oil complies with specs….grrr
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Only OK if no DPF.
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Old 05-10-2024, 05:20 AM   #5
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To be fair, Penrite says HPR5 is "suitable for use" in vehicles requiring Ford M2C913-C or -`D oils. But I agree with Citreonbender and always used ACEA C2/C3 oils after it was out of warranty.

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Old 05-10-2024, 06:38 AM   #6
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https://penriteoil.com.au/products/full-synthetic-5w-30

This is their specific ***913-C/D spec oil. I was using for yrs without any issues.
Comes in the 6L bottle which was perfect for me and my Kugsta.

If i was going to use a 5w-40, i would have chosen https://penriteoil.com.au/products/e...5w-40-full-syn.

Just due to it being C3 spec.
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Hi Guys,

Please excuse me for throwing in my 2c worth... This oil thing has been confusing me too. I'm no expert on oil and don't know the difference between Cx oils and Ay/Bz oils, but I have concluded that Cx oils are not good in TDCi engines. I recently bought a couple of TDCi models very cheaply. Both were having "trans" problems - read LGBT... into that if you like!

Turned out, both had serious EGR issues, and both had non-Ford-approved engine oils. For sure, one had Valvoline XLIII, not the FE version, the other had Pennzoil (Full Synthetic). I suspect there's a definite connection.

On top of that, (referring to Diesel engines) the 2013 Owner's Manual says, on p223:

Topping up with oil: If you are unable to find an oil that meets the specification defined by WSS-M2C913-C (...), you must use SAE 5W-30 that meets the specifications defined by ACEA A5/B5. (Bolding as per original.)

Anyway, I'm going for strict compliance with the Ford Manual, as the cost of oil is minor compared with the potential early issues of non-approved alternatives.

Have been using Penrite's WSS-M2C913-D, called "Vantage" here in NZ, but am moving to Valvoline FE as it seems to be cheaper on average.

Another thing I'll toss in here, though maybe I should make a new thread for it.

Both of those cars were not yet due for oil changes. Both had a few '000km to run. But both already had the long cam chain rattle problem. Still waiting to see how the new oils work out, but early indications are good.

On top that, I noticed that on both engines, the fully warmed-up [in P or N] idle fuel consumption was in the range of 1.2 - 1.4 l/hr. After oil changes, one was 0.6-0.8 l/h, one even dropped to 0.5 now and then, but also mostly 0.6-0.8.

I'm now thinking that idle fuel consumption is probably a better indication of oil state than the Odo reading.

FWIW...
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