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Old 30-01-2025, 10:09 AM   #31
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Re: the oil consumption, back in the mid 2000's I came across 'Motoman's Break in Secrets' and found the photo evidence so compelling, I decided to follow it to the letter when breaking in our new 2007 Territory.

I can say 17 years later, it consumed no oil whatsoever for the majority of it's life. It consumed a quarter of a litre during our last - and it's final - run from Vic to Perth in 2022, the first time ever it consumed oil. Motor is unopened, 342,000km, 10+ Nullarbor trips, and the car has been put out to pasture now to be cleaned up and cared for, and the motor still works.

This is a controversial method, because it is completely opposite to what most manufacturers recommend. Much like the greatest book of the 20th century, Weston A. Price's remarkable "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" (read this if you haven't had kids yet); the proof is in the photo's. I remember the joy of going through a quarter of a tank of fuel in 5 minutes with our brand new car, doing the Motoman break in properly - I felt like a complete madman.

Here is the link, get ready to go back to the early 2000s web page design.

http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

This is really a separate forum thread topic - be interested to hear all your views after considering this, as I look up to many of you mechanical legends.
Pretty much what my Mitsu Adelaide R & D friends describe......... Adelaide Hills was ideal for this with my 3.8 AWD Magna.
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Old 30-01-2025, 03:19 PM   #32
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Re: the oil consumption, back in the mid 2000's I came across 'Motoman's Break in Secrets' and found the photo evidence so compelling, I decided to follow it to the letter when breaking in our new 2007 Territory.

I can say 17 years later, it consumed no oil whatsoever for the majority of it's life. It consumed a quarter of a litre during our last - and it's final - run from Vic to Perth in 2022, the first time ever it consumed oil. Motor is unopened, 342,000km, 10+ Nullarbor trips, and the car has been put out to pasture now to be cleaned up and cared for, and the motor still works.

This is a controversial method, because it is completely opposite to what most manufacturers recommend. Much like the greatest book of the 20th century, Weston A. Price's remarkable "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" (read this if you haven't had kids yet); the proof is in the photo's. I remember the joy of going through a quarter of a tank of fuel in 5 minutes with our brand new car, doing the Motoman break in properly - I felt like a complete madman.

Here is the link, get ready to go back to the early 2000s web page design.

http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

This is really a separate forum thread topic - be interested to hear all your views after considering this, as I look up to many of you mechanical legends.
A new engine or rebuilt engine with first start up, you always revved it hard to bed the rings in, otherwise good chance the engine could end up being a dud.
All engines these days are bedded in on the work bench, I was always taught & told not to baby new or rebuilt engines, so far, all good in the last 50 years of motoring.
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Old 30-01-2025, 10:51 PM   #33
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So I am sitting tonight watching Grand Designs, and daughter with new Mazda 2 (little muppet) goes out to buy takeaway.

Get a call 45 minutes later- "Dad the car is making a really loud noise, something is wrong, can you come outside."

So I go outside, car is off, little muppet is standing beside it on road, and the engine fan is going 1000 mph. I walk up and hover my hand over bonnet and feel waves of heat flowing up. And then the smell, brake pads, rubber and that smell of a hot new engine burning off external fluids and giving new rubber and plastics a first time heat up (of an engine that had never been so driven).

A wash of nostalgia, I was 18 again and the smell after flogging my Mk 11 Cortina GT through the Dandenongs.

"You have just driven the crap out of your car haven't you, you have driven it really hard?" "Uh, just a bit", little muppet stammers, "I discovered the sports mode switch."

So I then took the car for a 10 minute cooldown putter, shocked to discover the Mazda 2 has no temperature gauge (WTF) and when parked no cooldown fan needed.

Then gave little muppet a lecture on need to warm up engine before driving spirited, and need for cooldown after driving a car hard, to cool down engine, gearbox, brakes. And then I said- "be kind to the car, be gentle and nice to it."

Got me thinking, you can drive a car real hard but still be kind to it with warm up and cool down.

About Mazda 6, sat in a new one in the showroom, and I found there was not the headroom I am used to in the ST and Falcon, felt claustrophobic, I could not be happy in one.

PS I do not think little muppets Mazda 2 will suffer carbon build up through a common cause of granny driving...
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We had a customer who cooked the knock sensor off their motor on a 2.

Head service and it’s still going.
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