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Sounds like a good mag, still a 13.4 is nothing to neeze at, but 12.7...damn!
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In 99% of stock cars a manual will thrash an auto. I have yet to see a stock BA Boss 260 break into the 13s but there are plenty of manuals.
I reckon getting a BA off the line cleanly would be harder in an auto than a manual... can't slip the clutch and you also are stuck in a bit of a torque hole with the auto or it goes up in smoke. The other thing is that Boss edit is still in it's infancy and the LS1 edit has been out for ages so I would expect there is more left in the Boss Edit with experience but the LS1 edit is pretty spot on. |
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My auto baxr8 ran 14 flat with a cai and catback and 10,000 k's, and that was my first ever outing at the drags, with just those mods and someone else driving i believe 13's easy (in winter i would do it). With all the bad reports on the autos i thought for sure i was looking to be happy with a 14.5, going home with flat 14 was great, but it was also easy and no where near as hard as i thought.
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And one other thing, are the said cars modded apart from the edit? If not, then im selling the xr8 and buying a vzss asap!! The power its making before and after edit is awesome, and the time is unbelievable!!!
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The times dont mean shit, how can you accuratley reccord times off a G-Tech. And it's a tad bit umfair to pit a 6 speed manual against a 4 spd auto. Now i wonder if the tunes flashed into the cars were the normal generic tunes or custom ones.
It'd be great to see a stock xr8 and a stock ss both manuals get the edit and do some before and after runs. Does anyone know if the VZ SS has the new 6.oL |
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The vz ss dont have a 6lt, yet it makes around 224 rwkw's before edit (i dont think so), so it MUST be modded, and to get that time its DEFINATELY modded beyond edit, so why bother comparing them? If the mag didnt have glossy pages you might be able to wipe your **** with it but you cant even do that so the mags just a waste of good tree ![]() Cheers Jim |
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Just have a browse on LS1 dot com.au and you'll find that an edited SS with exhaust and CAI will run 12s all day long in 6-speed format, nothing abnormal there. And on the same note and Phase II XR6 T or similar (anything with around 330kw) will also do the same.
Although, one of my friends ran a 13.6 in his stock standard VU ute, 6-speed. One strange night were there was so much grip, he just kept raising the launch RPM. He crossed the line with the same MPH but cut down on the 60ft by huge amounts! I went back with him not long ago cause he got valve springs, a MAFLESS tune and full exhaust making 240rwkw and still ran a 13.6 but a much higher MPH. He was mightly ****ed! Note - look at the GT's 0-100 time, you 'll see the auto has already given up 7/10ths, I bet the GT crossed the line with a higher MPH. |
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Im a member on ls1.com, v8 owners etc... Whilst there there are a limited few that claim 12's with edit, full exhaust, cai only, the majority of them are mid to low 13 with those mods,do you count slicks? i dont think they do. And it makes me wonder why only a certain few can do it and those certain few are allways the same people. I attended the last EC private drag day (my first attempt) and i can tell you now there were more than edit, exhaust and cai mods done to the 12 second holdens, and plenty with those mods plus diff changes running 13.s. It was a real eye opener to say the least. Anyway, find me a VZ SS with edit only that runs a 12.7 and ill sell the ford and buy the SS ![]() Cheers Jim |
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It's G-Tech! Who cares!
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It's a good mag & besides don't look at the times look at the comparative gains that's what counts
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As has already been said, an auto GT vs a manual SS isn't exactly a fair fight. What are the ratios involved? How tall is first gear (not to mention all the other gears) in the 4 speed auto, and what is the diff ratio? And how do these ratios compare to the 6 speed + diff in the SS? If it had been a 6 speed manual GT, it would have been a lot closer, I'll bet.
Anyway, that wasn't the point, the point is that you can gain a reasonable amount of power in either car just with one modification. ![]()
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gtec gadge is a cheap thrill for those putter boys. Get real dave aucland!!!!
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I spose when it comes down to it they put Ford/FPV's best offering against holdens mid class machine and lost. The GT still should be beating the ss regardless of box.
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I though it was a bit weird matching a GT with a SS. A XR8 v's a SS would be better for many more reasons than Ford v's Hollden. But it still shows the gains to be made by edits. What would be good to see is a Chip v's a Edit in the same car test.
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Well it seems even most at ls1.com ( bar 1) seem its a bit high...strange that ![]() Cheers Jim
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What the members should be more enthusiastic about is the relative performance gains using just edit. Whether the edited VZ ran a 'legit' 12.7s is immaterial as its the same environment for the Ford. It's all relative.
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I made my point in the first few posts anyway... These comments are also off topic but Wheels and to a much lesser degree, Motor, just don't cut if for me anymore but I love reading Motor's tuner edition. I believe that this magazine in it's current format would appeal more more to the average enthusiast than even Street Machine as it's contents are more relevant for today's average buyer. Oh, I'm not allowed to advertise my site... that's why I won't tell you that you are most welcome to register and that the URL is... http://ls1-australia.com/forum/index.php :Reverend:
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The LS2 doesn't even have extractors! Hahaha, and LS1 will make more HP, so a simialr engine with 300cc more torque, better cam and bottom end torque and a tune will easily eclpise the LS1 which already eclipses the BOSS. hahaha. Your silly tif you think the LS2 has nothing in it LOL!
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Hi All,
With it's relatively trim weight of the VZ SS and making 250kw, i would be not at all suprised if it can tail a manual GT. The 2.50:1 1st gear is it's achilies heal. Lets just all be happy that we can get access to these aussie powerful sedans that will go in the 12 second mark for relatively good money. How much would you have to pay for Euro sedan with this kind of power.
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I'll take the twin turbo APS 350z thanks! Oh hang on, that was last issue .. my bad..
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