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Old 24-06-2007, 10:24 PM   #1
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After a couple of months since its release has anybody seen one if those new Holden Epica's(camira) on the road? I have never seen one in the flesh so I'm wondering if it is a flop or not?

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Old 24-06-2007, 10:26 PM   #2
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After a couple of months since its release has anybody seen one if those new Holden Epica's(camira) on the road? I have never seen one in the flesh so I'm wondering if it is a flop or not?
isnt epica the new vectra? and no, i havent seen one yet..
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Old 24-06-2007, 10:32 PM   #3
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seen 1, they're about the size of a VT with a 2.0 or 2.5 straight 6, with no torque.....
they look quite out of proportion actually
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Old 24-06-2007, 10:35 PM   #4
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just a re badged daewoo somthing ( cant remember what it is called)
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the epica has JUST been released ...

oooh kind ov, it like a bigger version of the Vectra and smaller than an Omega ... but i haven't seen one yet ... or maybe i have just it looks so much like a normal commo on the side of the road ... hehehe
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Old 24-06-2007, 10:39 PM   #6
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seen 1, they're about the size of a VT with a 2.0 or 2.5 straight 6, with no torque.....
they look quite out of proportion actually
So they look like every other holden do they
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Old 24-06-2007, 10:52 PM   #7
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straight 6, with no torque....
whats new??
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Old 24-06-2007, 10:58 PM   #8
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Old 24-06-2007, 11:00 PM   #9
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some people ... if u don't, then don't post here, ur just asking for trouble, its just going to start something haha!
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Old 24-06-2007, 11:05 PM   #10
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are there any websites that give a current list and number of vehicles sold throughout Australia, All models and brands?
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Old 24-06-2007, 11:26 PM   #11
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Ive seen one on the road since the ads started on tv, a silver one. I must say it looked pretty nice from behind, but didnt get to have a really good look.
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Old 25-06-2007, 12:07 AM   #12
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I've seen one parked in a local driveway about a week after the release.
Someone must have been pretty keen to get one.

Only other ones I've seen have been sitting on the lot at the local GMH dealership.
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Old 25-06-2007, 01:19 AM   #13
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It probably has a bad rep already. being a rebadged ancient korean car with less power than a bicycle.
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Old 25-06-2007, 07:24 AM   #14
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We've got one at work , and the blokes who have driven it dont rate it at all.
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Old 25-06-2007, 07:47 AM   #15
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The Epica was release in May 2007. So far Holden have sold 179 in May and 480 in June - total 659.

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Old 25-06-2007, 07:52 AM   #16
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It probably has a bad rep already. being a rebadged ancient korean car with less power than a bicycle.
We put on a new rep recently who requested one as her company vehicle. Her request was denied because I don't rate the long term quality of Daewoos or Korean built cars..
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We put on a new rep recently who requested one as her company vehicle. Her request was denied because I don't rate the long term quality of Daewoos or Korean built cars..
Ha ha ha ha Nice.

Wonder how it survives ancap testing?

Denny Mooney must love all these Korean **** boxes, we promote him to Korea for good.
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Old 25-06-2007, 08:45 AM   #18
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I have seen quite a few of them around Sydney metro ... not too bad looking ... god like crap ... was expecting it to take off a lot better ... my loaded-up AU EGAS ute went a lot better (and I only make around 99rwkw)
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Old 25-06-2007, 09:15 AM   #19
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engine and transmission EPICA
2.0 L6 DOHC MPI engine 105kW/195Nm*
2.5 L6 DOHC MPI engine 115kW/237Nm*

A V6 that develops 105kw or 115kw ????, the FIESTA XR4 has that !!!!
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No wonder my loaded up AU beat it. LOL
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Old 25-06-2007, 09:30 AM   #21
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Rebadged Daewoo Matiz.

A friend of mine works for a Sydney dealership. He had a Vectra as a company car and loved it, but they've replaced it with an Epica. He reckons it's shite.
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As much as I hate Camry's I would buy one over that hunk of junk Epica if of course I was in the market for a new "boring medium sized A to B whitegoods car that will lose half its value when you drive out the door".

Pfft at 115kw from a 2.5L 6 cylinder medium sized car. Korean bicycle indeed.
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2.0 L6 DOHC MPI engine 105kW/195Nm*
2.5 L6 DOHC MPI engine 115kW/237Nm*

A V6 that develops 105kw or 115kw ????, the FIESTA XR4 has that !!!!
A V6 would probably make more than this. This car is powered by a straight six going east-west across the engine bay! Tose Korean's might want to pick the phone up and talk to Ford Australia if they want to know how to make some power out of a straight six!
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I haven't seen any.

Havent seen many Viva's either.
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I think i have seen 1 here in brissy... that isn't the territory rip off ehy? but yea that territory rip off i have seen 1 maybe 2 of those n it fugly
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That's the Craptiva ..... sorry ... Captiva.
Looks like it drives OK on roof tops of buildings ... but apparently crap on road.
Not sure what other vehicle comes standard with anti-roll-over protection for overtaking maneouvres.
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Old 25-06-2007, 12:47 PM   #27
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They're selling rather well.
More through the fleet channel than anywhere else.

It's the Holden 'car' for those who'd normally get a camry.
"The car for people who feel they need to drive, not wanting to drive for enjoyment".
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A V6 would probably make more than this. This car is powered by a straight six going east-west across the engine bay! Tose Korean's might want to pick the phone up and talk to Ford Australia if they want to know how to make some power out of a straight six!
This car is powered by a V6, its a smaller version of the global alloytec engine platform. And I actually think that inline 6 engines are a better design than a V6. Inline motors seem to be more balanced.
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Those Korean's might want to pick the phone up and talk to Ford Australia if they want to know how to make some power out of a straight six!
Actually, 'Those Koreans' had some help in developing the engine.
It was from a small european manufacturer known for cars such as the 911 Turbo S.

Hyundai first used the 2.0 i6 way back in 2000.
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i saw 1 this morning ... i didn't like it ... looked like a VIVA on steroids ... the boot was ugly as all hell ... but thats just my opinion!
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