![]() |
|
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
![]() |
#1 | |||
Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
|
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257B6C0000B62A
Quote:
__________________
Fords I own or have owned: 1970 XW Falcon GT replica ![]() Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#2 | ||
BOSS 5.4L Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 21,904
|
Agreed, how the media doesn't come up with a positive Falcon story with quotes like that is beyond me!
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#3 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,277
|
Yes, Ford has around twice as many engineers as Holden, approx 1100 vs 575
From here on in, Holden and Ford will be doing life extensions on their respective large car platforms. |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#4 | ||
Guess Who's Back?
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,369
|
Please explain, I though the 2014 Falcon was close to being a done deal?
__________________
The 18th Letter |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#5 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,277
|
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#6 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 3,246
|
Maybe Ford Australia can hire some of the engineers that GM Holden has been letting go.
Great to hear how integrated Ford Australia and it's RWD expertise in the Ford world. Also great to hear that the engineering pipeline is 'totally full'.
__________________
BA2 XR8 Rapid M6 Ute - Lid - Tint -18s 226.8rwkW@178kmh/537Nm@140kmh 1/9/2013 14.2@163kmh 23/10/2013 Boss349 built. Not yet run. Waiting on a shell. Retrotech thread http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...1363569&page=6 |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#7 | ||
Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
|
Even still, they tried with the first opening salvos trying to make the reader think the assembly plant is done for. The good bits were buried at the bottom.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned: 1970 XW Falcon GT replica ![]() Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#8 | |||
Peter Car
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
|
Quote:
They all tend to just hire the right number of engineers they need for the life of a project, and cut them loose when the project is over and they are no longer required, or they move them on to another project. So they just go wherever they can get work. |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#9 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,138
|
2 questions : Does anyone think the Mustang will be a case of too many cooks spoiling the broth if there is international input? The original was one man's vision, if I'm not mistaken ; I'd hate to see this one diluted to cater to too wide an audience.
Also how do you get a job engineering for FoA/the industry? Is an Associate diploma in engineering enough? or do you need a specific degree? |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#10 | |||
Professional Mouse Jockey
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE Vic
Posts: 3,185
|
Quote:
I'm pretty sure its not easy getting into automotive engineering/design. You might find getting an engineering job in maintenance or manufacturing plant/component design in the automotive sector easier.
__________________
Isuzu MUX for towing horses - currently no Fords in the stable Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana. Groucho Marx
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#11 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,439
|
There's only one thing I wish that this info was put out in a press release by Ford to all local media then relying on individual journo's talking to execs. Could you imagine the flood of headlines Holden would have tried to receive if it was their Engineering team in this current climate.
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#12 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Central Vic
Posts: 3,724
|
It's not just science grads who get auto jobs, arts grad design/stylist are just as important and will get jobs anywhere if their good enough...they 'inspire' sales too.
The Mustang is probably THE example.
__________________
Wherenoshockjocksfly Facts or the twitterverse, your choice! M3SR+ .......MG ZS EV |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#13 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,653
|
I know this is great news & I don’t want to turn a good news story into a bad, but, I have to say. Why can Ford talk up the R&D side of Ford AUST, but not manufacturing side of Ford AUST?? Just makes me mad!!
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#14 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 3,246
|
You mean like they did last year at the official unveiling of the major new R&D centre last year. The one which they invited whole swags of media from typical car type people to tech bloggers. Unfortunately, several auto journalists just turned it into a death story about Falcon rather than concentrate on the great investments made by Ford Australia.
__________________
BA2 XR8 Rapid M6 Ute - Lid - Tint -18s 226.8rwkW@178kmh/537Nm@140kmh 1/9/2013 14.2@163kmh 23/10/2013 Boss349 built. Not yet run. Waiting on a shell. Retrotech thread http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...1363569&page=6 |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
2 users like this post: |
![]() |
#15 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,277
|
And that's the whole point, the very good news of engineering project work that FoA
is into is being drowned out by negative reporting of Falcon death spiral at every opportunity. Had Holden been winning major portions of project engineering there would be dozens of pages written up in magazines from here until Christmas... |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#16 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,653
|
Quote:
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#17 | ||
I was correct - AGAIN
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Third rock from the sun
Posts: 1,801
|
Where do I apply?
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#18 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 3,246
|
Quote:
Let us, ourselves get back on track. This is a great news story for Ford Australia. It's a shame that more coverage wasn't obtained. Me personally, i'd have announced it the same week that GM Holden announced job cuts.
__________________
BA2 XR8 Rapid M6 Ute - Lid - Tint -18s 226.8rwkW@178kmh/537Nm@140kmh 1/9/2013 14.2@163kmh 23/10/2013 Boss349 built. Not yet run. Waiting on a shell. Retrotech thread http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...1363569&page=6 |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#19 | ||
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
![]() Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,559
|
Well it all depends on your perspective.
I have alot of time for the people at Ford but I also value knowing the company I want to work for has a solid base and a forward vision with something I am interested in. Short contracts dont appeal to everyone and while nothing is gauranteed some people prefer more stability that other industries provide. Its all about the overall package too. They have some good projects on the go but I just wish there was a little more commitment for the local stuff, either way the coin ends of falling.
__________________
Last edited by Polyal; 20-05-2013 at 03:04 PM. |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#20 | ||
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
![]() Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,559
|
If serious, Bayside Recruiting...yeap the buggers use external hire. Check their website.
Ill take my commision after the first 6 months ![]()
__________________
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#21 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,439
|
The dropping of the Melbourne Motor Show has also put a dent in the planned reveal of 2014 Falcon.
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#22 | |||
Oo\===/oO
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tamworth
Posts: 11,348
|
Quote:
At Sydney fords main exhibition was outside the motor show, that sort of setup could be used any place, any time, ford have shown us that they are thinking outside the square. Not having the motor show opens up a variety of different options...footy grand final, Bathurst, standalone show etc... Ford did say expect "shock and awe", so there could be a suitable reveal..
__________________
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#23 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,439
|
Quote:
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#24 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,334
|
If they're so serious about asking for more engineers, perhaps they should stop asking for people with 10+ years experience in this that or the other and start actually investing in developing NEW engineering talent. I've looked at what's on offer by Ford through Bayside Personnel and as a design engineer with a couple of years on board, it's very discouraging. They're clearly not interested in hiring people who they can train to be the next generation of thinkers- they just want people who they don't have to spend any moeny on except their wage.
Last edited by madmelon; 21-05-2013 at 10:04 AM. Reason: Spelling |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#25 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,252
|
Quote:
Seen it in so many industries globally. Fill staffing needs now don't worry about the future as there may not be one. Project related employment, need skills now as project doesn't have the money or the duration to teach. JP |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#26 | |||
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
![]() Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,559
|
Quote:
You can get in as a junior, but yes they expect students to find a few years worth of experience..hmmm If your not developing people at a lower level then your just treading water.
__________________
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#27 | |||
Oo\===/oO
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tamworth
Posts: 11,348
|
Quote:
With a motor show it can go either way, you can steal the show, or be not noticed. Last thing ford needs is the 2014 falcon launch overshadowed by a Holden concept car...like what has happened in the past.
__________________
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |