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As in 'best there ever'
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bayswater, VIC
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I've always wanted a black car. I don't care how hot they get, I reckon black is the easiest way to get a tough looking car.
However, there's that one comment that everyone always makes. The one that never fails to set me shaking in my boots. "Black shows everything!" Herein lies my drama... I've now got the black XC Cobra-looking front spoiler on my Landau, and I've painted all around the grille sections black, and it's quadrupled in toughness. The bloods flowing, the cranks are turning and that dusty little lightbulb up above is starting to glow, even if just dimly. But I'm still not sure. I've been tossing up paint ideas for a while and I can't quite work out what to do. But I do know that a black Landau would be something I could find myself being very happy with. The biggest problem being that with me being so young and possibly a little foolish, I really want to get my hands as dirty as I can on this car and try to do as much as possible myself. Including the body work. Now, there's not a chance that I'm gonna have the panels spot on when I'm done. I won't give in until they're close enough to look the goods, but they're not gonna be perfect. I don't doubt that. But I still want a black Landau. My question is this... Plain and simple... Just two short, simple words... Satin black? I was thinking matt black, but that was only between the "ummm" and the "uhhh". So after quickly dismissing that idea, I thought about other options. Gloss black or metallic black or whatever it is that everyone's got isn't even really an option. But what else is there? What will look the goods while still hiding any imperfections? I want this to be a fairly eye-catching car, so it's gotta look alright. Therefor, matt black is out of the question. But what can be put on a car that will still get some serious attention at events and whatnot, while hiding the weld lines and ripples of an amatuer car builder?
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Central to all beach's
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alice Springs
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hey Dude, do ya black paint as much as you want. We have two black cars, my wife drives a black Fiesta, I have a black BF XR8. Just be prepared to wash them a bit more often. And really with air con these days, who cares how much warmer they are. Paint and enjoy!!! Cheers, Brian.
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Right out sideways
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Coffs Harbour NSW
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as owner of 2 black cars aswell, i agree they look dead sexy, and are a pain to keep clean.
IMO matte black looks like you hand painted it, go a nice metallic black with a dark blue speckle
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I wash my car plenty anyway. When my XB wasn't always trying to upset me, it was getting washed twice a week. Keeping it clean won't be a problem. It won't be out on the road all that much anyway. I intend on building a big, heavy, fuel guzzling pig.
Why not? All you old blokes got to have yours. :Reverend:
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alice Springs
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God bless heavy, fuel guzzling pigs!!
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All Go, No Show
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lakes Entrance, East Gippsland, Victoria
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Just go gloss. you won't do that bad a job.
It'll still look sweet. like suggested, go a metallic flake, or a pearl to draw the eye to something other that the bodywork. Who's gunna see the bodywork anywyay when you fly past?! ;) *pigs flying* ?? lol
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Tribal Elder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Yarrambat
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WOZ , go 4it , my black xr6 5 speed manual tows around my 67 xr drag come streeter, and looks da goods
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Tribal Elder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Yarrambat
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But i also love flat black tough streeters
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The Diggers Oath, 29 November 1854 My XB Fairmont Sedan Project Last edited by Woz; 18-01-2006 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Struggling to keep up with modern times |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Black paint does not like bird poo. In summer I have found that the heat the black paint attracts speeds up the poo 'eating away' at the paint. Soon as you see bird poo on a black car you need to wash it off immediately.
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Excessive Fuel Ingestion
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Central Queensland Coast
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I build your wish list...
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Country Victoria
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Woz I had a ZK it was ONIX black with all the chrome and it Looked tuff and fast and that was when it was still parked . hahah
narr m8 do it they look good and with chrome trims Big FAT chrome wheels and a Motor to match . Who is going to complain about a few imperfections |
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What does everyone think about this polyester 'spray-on-bog' stuff? I hear good things. A coat of that, then hit it with hi-fill, then paint any colour you want and nothing should show through. Anyone used that? Good stories, bad stories, opinions that fit either aforementioned category?
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Back where I belong
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mexico - Victoria
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Once you go black you will never go back.........Mines black and even for a Holden..I love it as said you just need to wash it a little more often....
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true blue from "The BOG"
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
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3 black Fords here ..... never go back
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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the other problem with blacj is the car better 100% perfectly straight, every tiny little imperfection will stand out and detract from your achievemnt of rebuilding the car otherwise.
I love black cars, alomost painted the EA black actually, so not trying to put you off, just some food for thought.
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351 cubes of power
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central Queensland
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Black is definitely the toughest looking paint and mate, i'd rather sweat and drive something i loved rather than settle. Air con solves that prob any way. dead straight panels are the major isue with black paint but we all love our cars so that wont be an issue!
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Victoria - where being slow & incompetent is considered being "safe"
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I have 2 black cars. When clean (rare) and straight they look great. They are also a great way to hide an ugly-looking car.
Door dings show up something shocking. For race cars black isn’t so good – shows up light weight ripply fibreglass. Wish I had’ve thought of that before the race car got painted black. |
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Did you read it at all?
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my suggestion would be to find a good pic of one, post it in photoshop forum along with a list of colours you would like to see in, something ford I suggest. there was a ford deep blue in the EF i think, it pretty much looked black but wasnt.
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Built Ford Tough
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: State of Euphoria Mod: F-Series
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Are you wanting to be Top 20 at Summernats? If no, then a few imperfections should not deter you from having a black car if you like the colour. Sure, it can be a pain, but I'll be damned if isn't THE best colour when it's washed and waxed. Get the new Meguiars Tech Wax, or other 'black enhancing' waxes and make it that bit better as well.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Perth
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Didnt HENRY say it best ...
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3 black cars here. 2 I keep clean, one always dusty, all look mean in black.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Well if Ford can do a factroy black with it look in good out the factroy, then as someone who will put a lot of pride into their ride is going to come out looking A1. Go for it & best of luck doing yourself proud.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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My ED is 12 years old and it still looks hot
http://fordforums.com.au/vbportal/fo...ad.php?t=32194
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Perth
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mate black will look sweet.. i had hte same dilemma in choosing a phoon and i ended up going for black.. looks sweet as, does get pretty hot though..
if you are worried about keeping it clean, get some good polish like Zaino and a claybar and give it a thorough detail.. then you only need to high pressure spray it once or twice a fortnight |
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The only other downside of black, particularly matt black, is heat absorbtion. Ever tried putting your hand on a matt black car that's been out in the sun for a while? Other than that, blacks tough!!!
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Gotta go black mate. Makes anything look tough... (well most things). Sone chips show up something fierce but who cares when you have the street cred !!
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Guy that posts stuff
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Sydney
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Black cars also reflect less light back, sometimes this means less IR laser light from a Police speed gun. Black cars are harder to pick up from a distance and they have to target your headlights or number plate or chrome.
Its been said that a late model Camaro with no front plate and its popup headlights down is extremely hard to pick up with a laser gun. So there are benifits. |
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Moopheus?
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Toowoomba
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chassis black, and be prepared for people to not see you on the road, i now have a dark green car, and drive with the lights on constantly, but still have idiots try and drive through me
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