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31-01-2006, 12:33 AM | #1 | ||
Tall Kid...
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Alright, just thought i would run this by whoever would listen,
I own a barina (the very same one i make fun of below) i had a crazy idea to slot a ford 6-cly into the front, well maybe take out the firewall and convert it to RWD, anyone thought or tried this before? i know it will cost a bit, but hopefully it would be worth it in teh long run. thanks fellas, Skinna
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31-01-2006, 12:40 AM | #2 | ||
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I suggest you sit in the rear seats then ... and get a BIG bonnet bulge. A barina engine is a little bugger than a Falcons starter motor I think! Similar HP by the looks of it. :
Seriously though, the Commy V6 would be an easier fit (something like putting Oprah during her fat years into a size 6 bikini..)
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31-01-2006, 12:44 AM | #3 | ||
Tall Kid...
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funny you mention the real seat... im 6'4" so i could sit in the back and still reach the wheel! i wouldnt knock the engine... sure its the size of me double plugga thong but it delivers 6.4 kw to the front left wheel!
serious now, would a v6 be better? nothing is gunna fit in the east/west config, so im gunna rip teh fire wall out andgo from there...
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31-01-2006, 12:46 AM | #4 | ||
Tall Kid...
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sorry, i ment 'rear' not 'real' seat... i really should learn to write some day... and dnont worry about 'teh' its just the but diffrent.
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31-01-2006, 12:51 AM | #5 | |||
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31-01-2006, 12:55 AM | #6 | ||
Tall Kid...
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yeah, i was thinkin SR20, would fit (very) snugly in the engine bay, but i am in darwin, and the humidity would kill it in a few days of heavy work. its just ment to be a backyard build up with some mates, but im still at school so gota make sure i can afford it first
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31-01-2006, 02:11 AM | #7 | ||
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Instead of trying to squeeze something that will never fit, how about check out what engines will just slot in, there is a 1.6 that will fit (GSi engine) and makes about double the power the 1.4 does. Should be reasonably cheap to do and you and your mates could do it in a weekend.
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31-01-2006, 06:17 AM | #8 | ||
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I have to ask why you would spend that sort of money on a, to quote the ad, "beep beep Barina". Crazy talk.
Though it could be worse, you could do what you just proposed to then find out you couldn't get it engineered. Honestly, talk to an engineer before you pay a single cent on the car, learn about what you can and can't do, in order to keep the car registered. In short, my advice is this: is fun toying with ideas, but the reality is alot of money, time, and paperwork, and in my opinion, in this case, it's just not worth it. Timmeh |
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31-01-2006, 08:16 AM | #9 | ||
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There was an american firm which had done up a Fesitva a few years ago. It had a taurus V6 driving the rear wheels. Rear engined and RWD Festiva?!?
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31-01-2006, 08:31 AM | #10 | ||
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I say go for it. Theres an Excel around with a 351 in it, so anything is possible.
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31-01-2006, 09:43 AM | #11 | ||
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There's also a Focus in NZ with a BA XR6T motor in it.....
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31-01-2006, 02:05 PM | #12 | |||
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31-01-2006, 02:40 PM | #13 | ||
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I bote for the I6 in the Barina! Go something like an EB 4.0 It will be cheap to find, easy to fix and cheap to replace when you blow it up popping wheelstands! If you lived closer I'd be really keen to help.
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31-01-2006, 02:45 PM | #14 | |||
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31-01-2006, 03:49 PM | #15 | |||
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31-01-2006, 03:49 PM | #16 | ||
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Hmmmmm I honestly think the Ford I6 would be to fooking big.
Slot in a RB30 or even a RB20. |
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31-01-2006, 04:06 PM | #17 | |||
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31-01-2006, 04:11 PM | #18 | ||
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31-01-2006, 04:15 PM | #19 | ||
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yes it went to summernats last year......there was also mini moke with a V8 and massive rubbers under the back
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31-01-2006, 04:17 PM | #20 | ||
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:sm_headba Now that is the only Excel that I've ever liked... Niiice...
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31-01-2006, 04:21 PM | #21 | ||
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yeh did killa skids till it "nudged" the wall :P
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31-01-2006, 04:35 PM | #22 | ||
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Are you sure that's a 351 though? The Engine bay isn't really big and you can't see an engine for a while.
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31-01-2006, 04:36 PM | #23 | ||
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Hang on, is that 2 massive turbos feeding it? TT 351 would absolutely haul!! Even I'd be scared to drive that.
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31-01-2006, 04:38 PM | #24 | |||
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Hmmm it's either a 302 or a 351, i'm fairly sure it's a 351 though...TT Nitroused... Ford badge on the front and bastardised ford slogan on the rear :P |
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31-01-2006, 04:43 PM | #25 | |||
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31-01-2006, 05:15 PM | #26 | |||
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In the UK a feew years ago, a Fiat Uno (very similar to a barina) was fitted with an in line 6 and engineered.
It was someone doing it just for the sake of it but it is possible! I'll see if I can find a photo somewhere.....
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31-01-2006, 05:59 PM | #27 | ||
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First of all, im suprised that my first thread got this big... guess im just lucky
Second, That exel was just insane... wish the old girls old one had the same runing gear, does anyone think we should set up a poll? just to see how many people thing we can fit a 6 cly in a clown car? (lets face facts... its that small.) btw, getting a 3-tone airhorn off a mate, should have it fitted by friday :Up_to_som
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31-01-2006, 06:43 PM | #28 | ||
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if its just a bush basher get the Magna 3 litre V6 or the 2.5L V6 out of the mighty Telstart TX5. But your best bet would be a Rotary
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31-01-2006, 07:02 PM | #29 | ||
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^^ A rotary in a Barina? :nutsycuck
Click here to see Video If I was you I wouldn't bother though, it'd end up being a pretty expensive paddock beater. |
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31-01-2006, 07:05 PM | #30 | ||
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For a bush basher the best way is to leave it stock or buy another ИИИИter for thrashing around.
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