bloody shopping centre car parks

[Jason[98.EL]]

well as ya all might know i got a small dent in the el from a trolley but that only minor

the other night when i pulled up in a car park up against the wall they have these stupid yellow concrete things to stop cars geeting to farr over the walk way

well as you might be thinking i hooked the front bumper on it and almost ripped it off

the question i have is who do i talk to management or councel the centre management dont want to know about it so i dont know where i stand on this

by the way im not the only car to do this i saw a stock eb or ed ripp his bar off completly

hoping to get it all sorted before the all ford day


jason

[Damo]

you gotta be careful with them damn things, I just leave the ИИИИ of the car well out like a LWB. : Hope you get it sorted soon.

[efgiar]

i allways have my ИИИИ end sticking out wereva i can, id rather do that then have a bar ripped off, and if somone does swipe u 9/10 times there will be someone there as a witness

[EDXR6T]

Originally Posted by efgiar

9/10 times there will be someone there as a witness

doesent matter if thers a witness most ppl dont wana waist ther time waiting for the owner to get bk then talk to them about it then talk to the cops:P then probally down the trak go to court over it do b a witness

to time consuming for most ppl
and it suk's:(

[Tiga_EL]

Yeah those are in heaps of those shopping centre carparks. I think safeway covers damage caused to your car whilst in their carpark. I know a family friend whos car got vandalised in the carpark not too much, but they took it to the manager and im pretty sure they paid for it all. But ive ripped my front bar off aswell.. had to gaffa tape it on and take it home to fix it.

[triple8nitro]

Why dont people take more care (pedestrian) then we wont need proper walk ways . I had a chunk missing when i pulled my bar off to put a new one on !

[naughtyfalcon]

as you know there there it's your fault if you hit them.

[Jason[98.EL]]

but what about the stock cars hooking there bars on them

even a stock el hooked on it not as bad as mine but still scraped on it

thats where i think i have an argument with them

all i want is for someone to fix it

[naughtyfalcon]

it don't matter what type of vehicle it is,you know there there therefore it's up to you not to hit them,if you do it's a case of bad luck.

there there for a reason.

[triple8nitro]

Well ok maybe im being a bit blaze i dont think i would like one of my family members hit by someone in any situation.
They do not need to be so high though perhaps a small steel frame higher than most bonnets would be more suitable though or perhaps a rail even.

[naughtyfalcon]

they weren't made for lowered vehicles,and i don't see them changeing in the future either.

[triple8nitro]

Ok lol the gutter thingy dont need to be so high, perhaps an alternative .
If they dont wanna change it perhaps they could add to it
ie aforementioned pole/rail

My ef is not lowered , I also agree people need to pay attention in carparks.

[Jason[98.EL]]

what about the stock height cars ive seen scrape them

and my el is no lower that a el xr6 or xr8

ill get a photo of them tomorrow

this is my el as it sit today

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...carpics028.jpg

mine is still a family car ie 2 kids cant mod it yet like i want

[naughtyfalcon]

don't get me wrong,i think they can be to high as well but they are there to stop vehicles going somewhere there not meant to.

it's the as some of the mad ИИИИ speed humps,,there a pain in back side.

[triple8nitro]

lol we need falcon only parking at the most convenient entry exit to every car park

[naughtyfalcon]

i'd go with that,some things just need there own spot aye.

[triple8nitro]

Too true mate
I work at a FORD pub lol
I'll have to get some photos of those gutters, youd have to have a fully sick lowering job to scrape there, but ИИИИed d&*ks + GLASS = me with flat tyre or them with black eye !!!!

[FRDXR6]

Dont think theres anything you can do about it. Put simply its your job to avoid it. Think about how someone with a low sports car from factory would go, if they had to accomodate those cars as well they would be like 5cm off the ground and people would just drive over them.

[Dezza]

Ages ago, I caught my front bumper on a kerb (it actually pulled the right hand side out of the clip), yet my car is dead stock. The ride-height is completely 4WD spec, so this proves that some of these are way too high.

[triple8nitro]

They dont need to be any lower if they either have signs that point it out or a rail/pole at a visible height or give us FORD parking
lol!!!

Anyway on a serious note ive probably said my piece :

[snypereb]

Centre Management mate would be your best bet or if its a westfield your can ring up there head office about the matter

[needfordspeed]

bad luck Helijas, hope it all works out.

[EDXR6T]

yer bad luck jase

i cant wait til i get mine ot sl's xr lip freshlly painted:P

ther's going to b a lot of slow parking's aheadLOL

[FordGirl]

I'm just always really cautious as to how close I park, I'll stop the car and get out and go look how much further I've got.
They're always going to be there, they wont get rid of it because half a dozen people complain about getting their front bar hooked.
Bad luck though, hopefully its fixed by AFD!

[naughtyfalcon]

Originally Posted by snypereb

Centre Management mate would be your best bet or if its a westfield your can ring up there head office about the matter

theres no point in ringing anybody,what do you think they'll do about it?
they'll just say it's not our problem thank you bye.


as i said before,you know there there so if you hit them stiff. it's your fault and no body will pay for anything.

[trick_xd]

Buggga Jason thats no good

There is a law that says that you can not have that yellow curb any more then 100mm high ... ( AT lest that is what a CITY COUNCIL MAN told us at a public address over this problem )

Its there to stop people from parking to close to the building
AND at some placers there is Big speed bumps ... well they to can be no bigger then 100mm
As the law says that your car is to be no lower then 100mm then if they build anything bigger then that then it is there Problem to fix it or any damage done to your ride is there Problem.

Hope you get it all fixed before A.F.D. jason
if not at least I wont be the only car with a cracked bumper

[naughtyfalcon]

100mm is after all 10 cm thats bloody high in it self,,

[Aaron_EF8]

If your car is legal height it shouldn't hit a 100mm high object.......

I'll have a guess and say the carpark is private property, not run by the council, so the usual rules on curbs won't apply. You could try a lawyer if centre management don't listen, I personally don't think you'll get very far though.

[MacGyver]

Unfortunately the onus is on the driver. To make the other party liable you need to prove that they were negligent in some way. If a standard vehicle would not have been damaged, then it is not the responcibility of the carpark owners to make sure no vehicles at all would be damaged.

Basically if you change your vehicle specs, then the onus is on you to make sure it will not be damaged or damage others property.

SO technically if you lowered your car and then tore the bar off on one of these bumps and damaged the bump, you would be liable for the damage caused.

cheers
Scott

[Jason[98.EL]]

well i finally gott to speak to centre managment tonight and the guy said that they have had around 20 people complain about them and as he said they have already paid out for 5 of them so it might be looking good for me

the lowest part of my bar is 145mm and the black part that runs from one side to the other is 135mm so thats the lowest point

jason