Climate Control Conversion :)

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Well The First Part of the Climate Control Conversion started...

I have aquired :

EA2 Ghia Enginebay loom
EA2 Ghia Dash loom
All the Climate Control sensors, Climate Module, Heaterbox and EB Lighter Coloured Dash and interior plastics.

Big thanks to Dansedgli for all the good stuff (parts), If this all works its cause of you mate :sm_headba :king:

Now Before I start fitting all the parts I wanted to ask some questions
1. Will the Climate Control still work without the Coolant Temp Sensor? I dont indend on using it in AUTO mode
2. The ECU Wiring is the same for GL as for Ghia right?

Ill update this as I go along

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Ohh and Also, has anyone else tried this before?

[Damo]

climate control is overated IMO. Though it will look better.

Do the climate controls on Falcons tell ya the temp outside ?

[Psycho Chicken]

I believe the temp sensor also tells it to switch between recirc and fresh, though you could set that manually. It should work, probably find some sort of code to throw at you. We'll unplug mine when I'm over and find out.

What's the point of putting it in if you aren't going to use the auto feature?

And yeah they tell you the outside temp and no they aren't over rated, you povo pack people are just jealous!

[Sundeep]

Don't thank Dan. You'll be abusing him when it all doesn't work lol. My trans has ****ed up 3 times!

I'm only joking hehe. The trans is the grouse.

Good luck with ur project.

Sundeep

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

What's the point of putting it in if you aren't going to use the auto feature?

And yeah they tell you the outside temp and no they aren't over rated, you povo pack people are just jealous!

i dont use the Auto feature in mine ever! same as the cruise control, i use it once every 3 months or so. I should have bought a GLi.....i just love my Electric windows.

[Psycho Chicken]

Oh I would of killed for cruise on the way back from AFD!

I use auto all the time, just whack it on 22 in the mornings and go, it'll come on when it's ready.

[Smoked]

Originally Posted by Damo

climate control is overated IMO. Though it will look better.

Do the climate controls on Falcons tell ya the temp outside ?

Not the EA or EB series 1. the only tell you the temp setting desired. The unit was updated for EB2 and ED, it got more features, ie Ambient Temp, A/C on/off.

[EFFalcon]

Cruise & power windows = BEST MOD EVER! :P

[Damo]

I still think it's overated. What benifits, other than showing you the supposed temp in car, does it have.. ?

My Pov pak has Climate control. It's just not digital.

[Psycho Chicken]

I can set the temp and forget about it. No fiddling with knobs, no cold air blowing when the car isn't heated up.

[niko]

u shoulda just bought a fairmont ghia... lol

[LUXO_8]

climate is great, set at a temp and it keeps the car at that temp....... ingenious.

good luck with the conversion mick

[niko]

u could save alot of time an effort if u get a ghia/fairlane to start with

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Originally Posted by niko

u could save alot of time an effort if u get a ghia/fairlane to start with

LOL but where is the fun in that? (Allthou a Pimped out Fairlane with Chromies would be nice [pimp my ride strikes again] : )

EFFALCON - Yea it does, And Im intending to fit Cruise control next aswell since with all the ghia wiring there, it just plugs in

[EFFalcon]

exactly...
if i had an EF Ghia right now... my car wouldn't be as special as it is now :P
no one works up a GLi!

[Kenaz]

Climate is ok, I usually prefer to put the windows down though

[spope]

I was gonna do this conversion over easter... but i threw my back out and i'm still waiting to do it!
I'm hanging out, especially with the cold mornings, cause I have no heater whatsover at the moment.
I reckon it's heaps better because i spend half my time adjusting my fan speed and turning the a/c on/off anyways. Plus, it's good to have features in the car that weren't available. ;)

Oh, and according to the Ford manual, if the coolant temp sender isn't plugged in, the climate ecu assumes an engine temp of 92 degrees, which means that on cold starts you'll get cold air blowing on you and you won't have the emergency recirc mode if the car gets too hot.

[dansedgli]

ghia'd up gli's are the best! I have power front windows, non functional rears, no winders or electric motors! ( who uses the back windows anyway!) ghia interior, ghia cluster with non functioning oil pressure and water level switches.

Its awesome.... no really its awesome!

[EFFalcon]

agreed Dan..
half arsed ghia's are the way to go!

[Gunns]

Originally Posted by EFFalcon

half arsed ghia's are the way to go!

I 2nd that!

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Originally Posted by spope

Oh, and according to the Ford manual, if the coolant temp sender isn't plugged in, the climate ecu assumes an engine temp of 92 degrees, which means that on cold starts you'll get cold air blowing on you and you won't have the emergency recirc mode if the car gets too hot.

So without it, if i turn the heater on, it wont work untill the water heats up?
What in the heck is emergency recirc mode? :togo: lol
I will postpone fitting it today and get a Coolant Temp Sender for it.

My Next question is, as i dont have SLS and never want it, If i simply dont put the SLS relay in and the SLS Fuse, that means the car will still work fine? I think Dellboy mentioned to me once that the trip computer or cluster would allert me that SLS isnt working? I dont want that

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

half arsed ghia's are the way to go!

I 3rd that, Hell yea they rock, Everything is about to be GHIA in mine cept for SLS that i dont care for

[AUII_Forte]

My EA Ghia had the SLS fuse pulled out and I never had a problem.

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Thanks AUII_Forte

[santoitaliano]

is power window mod a pain in the ***?

cheers,

[neb]

woohooo go my gli with fairmont seats, fairmont/spac instrument cluster, trip computer, front footwell courtesy lights... lol!

[TUFED6]

Go the GLi! Extra gizmos is just more things to go wrong!

- John

P.S. Anyone want the dashboard part of an EA climate setup?

[spope]

Originally Posted by InitialD

So without it, if i turn the heater on, it wont work untill the water heats up?

Other way round. With c/c, the car waits until the water has warmed up until turning on the fan. If you don't have the coolant sensor, it assumes that car is warm, and will therefore turn the fan on even if the car is cold. That is of course applicable only to the heater, and won't effect your a/c.

Originally Posted by InitialD

What in the heck is emergency recirc mode? lol

You ever noticed the vac hoses that go back to the thermostat housing? If the car starts to overheat (about 108 degrees or so, IIRC) that switch opens, causing the car to automatically change the state of the recirc flap to recirc. Theory being it reduces load on the engine because the a/c doesn't have to work as hard. I've never actually notice it work, though.
With c/c, it goes one step further, in that if your car gets to hot, it goes into recirc mode and switches the a/c off.
It's just as easy to get the sensor... hey, if you are in the chadstone area you can have one of my spares. I have three.

Oh, and are you running a Ghia digital cluster or an s-pac cluster? S-pac one won't warn you if the sls isn't working, the ghia one will. Just pull out the globe.

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Spope, Im running the Digital Dash cluster as I want something different and I have to Ebay the SVO one