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07-04-2007, 04:53 PM | #1 | ||
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Hi, I'm not sure on this so I thought I'd get you fellas to help me out.
I believe that one of the most frustrating things on the roads today is the blatant inability of people to keep left. Now, I'm talking about drivers in the right lane of a multi laned road. Be it a freway or other major arterial. In most other situations, if they are doing the speed limit, too bad for me, I just have to grin and bear it. I spend a lot of time on melbournes roads and freeways and it really is annoying to be constantly held up by drivers in the right lane. Granted that some of them aren't really paying attention to their mirrors and I've crept up, but most are just plodding along either just under or on the speed limit. Move left people and let the driver behind go past. But, I'm wondering if its against the law? I'm from NZ and not only was it against the road code but its what my Dad emphasied alot when I was learning to drive, Keep left! Even to this day, I get anxious when I'm in the right lane and another motorist is behind me. I do everything possible to quickly but safely move left to let them thru. However, I seem to be one of only a few on the roads these days. Having never seen the Aust. road code I don't know the legalities of this problem. So, my question to you is: Is driving in the right lane and holding up traffic illegal? Not that theres much I can do about it, but it would be nice to know. Thanks, Cuz :
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07-04-2007, 04:58 PM | #2 | ||
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I think it is law in Vic that in a zone above 80 kmh you must stick to the left lane unless overtaking.
At speeds below 80 it is expected you to keep left but not compulsory
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07-04-2007, 05:13 PM | #3 | ||
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The following is an extract from The Australian Road Rules (Oct 2003), which apply across Australia (with some variations from state to state (eg doing a hook turn in Melbourne's CBD because of tram traffic). In short you should stay left. Hope this answers your question.
Rule 129 Keeping to the far left side of a road (1) A driver on a road (except a multi-lane road) must drive as near as practicable to the far left side of the road. Offence provision. Note Multi-lane road is defined in the dictionary. (2) This rule does not apply to the rider of a motor bike. Note Motor bike is defined in the dictionary. (3) In this rule: road does not include a road-related area. Note Road-related area includes the shoulder of a road — see rule 13. Rule 130 Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road (1) This rule applies to a driver driving on a multi-lane road if: (a) the speed-limit applying to the driver for the length of road where the driver is driving is over 80 kilometres per hour; or (b) a keep left unless overtaking sign applies to the length of road where the driver is driving. Note 1 Length of road and multi-lane road are defined in the dictionary. Note 2 Part 3 deals with speed-limits. (2) The driver must not drive in the right lane unless: (a) the driver is turning right, or making a U–turn from the centre of the road, and is giving a right change of direction signal; or (b) the driver is overtaking; or (c) a left lane must turn left sign or left traffic lane arrows apply to any other lane and the driver is not turning left; or (d) the driver is required to drive in the right lane under rule 159; or (e) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or (f) the traffic in each other lane is congested; or (g) the traffic in every lane is congested. Offence provision. Note 1 Centre of the road, left traffic lane arrows, obstruction, overtake, right change of direction signal, traffic and U–turn are defined in the dictionary. Note 2 Rule 159 deals with traffic signs that require a particular kind of vehicle to drive in the marked lane indicated by the signs. Note 3 Rule 329 deals with when a traffic control device applies to a marked lane. (3) A keep left unless overtaking sign on a multi-lane road applies to the length of road beginning at the sign and ending at the nearest of the following: (a) an end keep left unless overtaking sign on the road; (b) a traffic sign or road marking on the road that indicates that the road is no longer a multi-lane road; (c) if the road ends at a T–intersection or dead end — the end of the road. Note Road marking, T–intersection and traffic sign are defined in the dictionary. (4) In this rule: lane, for a driver, means a marked lane for vehicles travelling in the same direction as the driver, but does not include a special purpose lane in which the driver is not permitted to drive. Note 1 Marked lane and special purpose lane are defined in the dictionary. Note 2 Rule 95 deals with driving in emergency stopping lanes, and Division 6 of this Part deals with driving in other special purpose lanes.
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07-04-2007, 05:22 PM | #4 | ||
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Keeping left is purely optional at all speeds, and illegal at any speed under 60km/hr.
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07-04-2007, 05:30 PM | #5 | ||||
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07-04-2007, 05:43 PM | #6 | ||
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Yes.
AND further, - NZ'ers, Victorians, Queenslanders, Tasmanians, ACT people, Western Australians, South Australians, NT people - are NOT taught HOW to CORRECTLY use motorways with three or more lanes. Here, 'keep middle' prevails way too much which results in traffic delays through reduced traffic throughput etc and so on. NSW is the ONLY AUS jurisdiction that has the appropriate text. Other locales will follow our UN based, EU sourced tutorial on the matter in time. What they teach in China (and GB/EU) on the matter: http://www.td.gov.hk/road_safety/roa...ays_/index.htm NSW tuition, Pdf 2.92mb, see Page 93: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...lish_print.pdf
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07-04-2007, 05:50 PM | #7 | |||
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07-04-2007, 05:59 PM | #9 | |||
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07-04-2007, 06:03 PM | #11 | |||
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07-04-2007, 06:14 PM | #12 | |||
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07-04-2007, 06:16 PM | #13 | |||
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07-04-2007, 06:50 PM | #14 | ||
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I've just read thru another thread in the bar titled 'Your Tailgating Retaliation'
Some of the comments in there were pathetic. No bloody wonder there is so much road rage going on these days. Hit the brakes then speed up, let them past then pull in behind and tailgate them with high beams on and so on... Just let them past. Who cares if they are speeding. Good luck to them I say. If I let them past and they speed off, hopefully I can see the flash of the speed camera as it gets them and I can check my speed.
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07-04-2007, 09:04 PM | #15 | ||||
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07-04-2007, 09:16 PM | #16 | |||
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It is technically illegal to overtake on the left of a car (undertaking??), but I do it often, as idiots just won't move out of the right. My mates, and family, all reckon I lane swap too much - in reality, all I am doing is sitting in the left, then into the right to overtake, and then back to the left. Over my 30 km journey to work, I probably add another 1/2km or so in the extra distance I do weaving from left to right! LOL.
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07-04-2007, 09:23 PM | #18 | ||
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07-04-2007, 09:32 PM | #19 | |||
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Yes in WA but only where there is a keep left sign or the speed limit is 90 km/hr or more See http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/w...eg/rtc2000113/
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07-04-2007, 09:36 PM | #20 | ||
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It must be law here in SA as my ex actually got fined by a cop for being in the left lane, overtaking a very slow car in front of him on the freeway by overtaking in the right lane and staying there.... about 1km down the track he was still in the right lane and got flashed, pulled over and fined!!!! He was told that he should have pulled back into the left lane.
I dont care who is doing what speed... if there is a car behind you and you are in the right lane, just pull over to the left if you can. Its that simple. If I am doing the speed limit, and someone doing 5km over comes up behind me, I will always move out of their way if there is room to. Without a doubt. And I try to keep over to the left at any speed limit zone... its just courtesy. A point to remember... you never know why someone may want to get past you, and why they might be speeding a little.. they could have a relative in hospital from a car accident, a bloke might have just got a call that his wife is in labour or it might even be someone that is just running late for a really important job interview... who knows? But Im not about to judge why... I will just let them past. And I expect the same courtesy regardless of the law.
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07-04-2007, 09:37 PM | #21 | ||
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I hate people that drive on the right lane going as slow (10km/h under) as the ones on the left lane.
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07-04-2007, 09:47 PM | #22 | ||
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Unfortunately in WA our Freeways, where the keep left rule applies most off the time, appear not to have always been designed with this in mind with some right hand lane exits so you get the slow drivers who either hold up the right hand lane or the suddenly realise they need to be in the right hand lane to get in their exit lane and make a sharp turn right hander across two lanes of faster moving traffic (eg those coming onto the Narrows Bridge heading north in the left hand lane wanting to exit with a right turn into Newcastle Street). I also don't think our Freeway signage (in comparison to that in Sydney for example) gives out of towners enough warning of lane they need to be on to exit to what locations.
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07-04-2007, 09:54 PM | #24 | ||
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Quasi, I would hand in my licence but I dont have one.
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07-04-2007, 10:08 PM | #26 | |||
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SA (unlike WA) has adopted the Australian Road Rules per http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/s...r210/s130.html
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07-04-2007, 10:13 PM | #27 | ||
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Ref: Vicroads Rules;
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...inginVicRR.pdf page 52 The rule is written rather strangely: On multi-lane roads with a speed limit over 80 km/h, you must keep out of the right lane unless you are: *Overtaking *Turning right *Making a U-turn *Avoiding an obstruction *Traffic is congested You must also keep out of the right lane where a Keep Left Unless Overtaking sign applies. I interpret this as you can still drive in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway, or the second lane from the right on any freeway regardless of the number of lanes. You dont have to stay in the extreme left lane at all (unless its only a 2 lane freeway). |
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07-04-2007, 10:46 PM | #29 | ||
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The M1 from Brisbane to the Gold Coast is four lanes wide in both directions and the third and fourth (far right) lanes are always the most populated. I even seen marked police cars cruising out there when the left lanes are vacant. There are very big signs along the way stating "KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING" Yet the empty-head drones drive out in the fourth lane in their hundreds. If you did that in Europe you be pulled over, castigated by the police, and heavily fined.
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