New Larger Mustang Platform

[aussiblue]

http://fordauthority.com/2019/05/mus...d-you-buy-one/

Rumors are swirling everywhere about the next-generation Ford Mustang. Word is that around 2026, the smaller Pony car we all know and love will die. Mustang rumors suggest that in its place will come a much larger car on the CD6 platform that underpins the 2020 Ford Explorer and 2020 Lincoln Aviator.

The move to the new platform means the Mustang will get larger and heavier with rumors suggesting that the larger CD6 platform Mustang will be on par size wise with the current generation Dodge Challenger. Mustang fans into track days and road racing know that the current car is already getting too heavy. An even larger Mustang could turn the road racers to a different car altogether. If the Mustang does grow to be the same size as the Challenger, would you still buy one?

[Citroënbender]

It will be like the Mini. Selling on the name, not what it traditionally has been.

"Mustang" SUV? If the Bentayga could come to be, then absolutely.

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

It will be like the Mini. Selling on the name, not what it traditionally has been.

....

Hasn't that been the case with the Mustang since the mid 70's

[GO FURTHER]

I would not buy a larger Mustang.

My 2017 Mustang is already wider than an FG Falcon and just as long.

It also has a huge 12.1 metre turning circle, which is more than a Ford Ranger or a Falcon.... You really notice it on normal side streets and most roads, and often its a 3 point turn or risk getting gutter rash on the front wheels.

So, no, the current S550 6th Gen Stang is already too big and heavy IMO.

A lighter Stang the size of a Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ would be Heaven!

[cheap]

Smaller footprint and 400kg lighter would be the way forward, if it becomes bigger then I fear Ford have learnt nothing from the early 70’s when mustangs became bloated blimps and any notional sportiness was lost.

[kaniSS]

"2020 Lincoln Aviator." bhhhhh Kill it with fire !!!

[Citroënbender]

“Hey, let’s change the formula. It’s got to be a market clincher”.

Yep; Mustang II, New Coke, New Skype all come to mind.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

I would not buy a larger Mustang.

My 2017 Mustang is already wider than an FG Falcon and just as long.

It also has a huge 12.1 metre turning circle, which is more than a Ford Ranger or a Falcon.... You really notice it on normal side streets and most roads, and often its a 3 point turn or risk getting gutter rash on the front wheels.

So, no, the current S550 6th Gen Stang is already too big and heavy IMO.

A lighter Stang the size of a Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ would be Heaven!

Might be time to bring back the RS200!

[Ben73]

As long as it’s a coupe with decent power I would own one.
I’ve never thought of the Mustang as small. It’s larger than most coupe on the road.

[Interceptor]

clearly Ford aren't learning any lessons....

[Fordman1]

Rumours, just because someone says it’s getting bigger and heavier on the internet makes it fact ?

Of course it does, this is the internet, everything here is true

[Mr Brooksy]

If they also had the option of a four door and turbo Barra, I'd consider it.

[sixman]

Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

If they also had the option of a four door and turbo Barra, I'd consider it.

We had that for years. Not enough people bought them, so they stopped making it.....

[aussiblue]

Rumours, just because someone says it’s getting bigger and heavier on the internet makes it fact ?

But it's also often how companies sometimes initially test likely market responses; put the rumour out there to see what the market thinks.

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

I would not buy a larger Mustang.

My 2017 Mustang is already wider than an FG Falcon and just as long.

It also has a huge 12.1 metre turning circle, which is more than a Ford Ranger or a Falcon.... You really notice it on normal side streets and most roads, and often its a 3 point turn or risk getting gutter rash on the front wheels.

So, no, the current S550 6th Gen Stang is already too big and heavy IMO.

A lighter Stang the size of a Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ would be Heaven!

there quite a bit shorter than a FG falcon, park them together

Falcon FG 4955 mm wheelbase 2838 mm
Mustang 4784 mm wheelbase 2720 mm

but agree the turning circle is large

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Rumours, just because someone says it’s getting bigger and heavier on the internet makes it fact ?

Of course it does, this is the internet, everything here is true

Exactly. Because it may use the CD6 platform they have added 2+2 together and got 37, and assume it will be bigger cause the Explorer is bigger. But todays modular platforms are scaleable and can be made shorter and narrower to suit different vehicles. Which is what they will do with the Mustang.

With CAFE requirements, adding a heap of size and weight just isn't a realistic option.

[Crazy Dazz]

Its all semantics.
Mustang was originally based on the Falcon, which at the time was considered small by American standards. Hence the term Pony car, denoting something smaller that the full-size tanks of the day.

CD denotes something between Compact and modern Full-size, eg the Mondeo/Fusion is built on the CD3 or CD4.
CD6 will be slightly different in that it will will allow a wider range of vehicles and sizes to be built of the same platform, and allow FWD, RWD, or AWD. There's nothing to say that Mustang needs to be any bigger just because its on the CD6 platform.

You also need to understand that the Ford organisation is extremely political, and there is immense competition between divisions for prestige and budget.
The Mustang division has always fought fiercely against using a common platform, and the idea of a 4-door version, because that would have reduced their control and their development budget. Being such a company icon, the Mustang division clearly have more political cachet than others.
Twice, FoA were forced to go it alone and develop the EA169 and E8, rather than a global large RWD platform, because the Mustang Team didn't want to share their toys.

The reason the last Mustang still had a solid rear axle, is because it was supposedto be based on a global platform, the DEW (or D/E-W) but again the Mustang team wanted more control, so they ditched the independent suspension, and instead developed their own platform.
And once again, there was supposed to be a 4-door version, but it never happened.

Now, they have seen off all the internal competition. The Panther platform was not replaced, after getting rid of Nasser the E8 never left Australia and dies with the Falcon, and Ford nolonger has links to jag and Volvo. All leaving Mustang as the sole torch-bearer for the RWD platform.
Now Suddenly, surprise-surprise, they can't wait to develop a universal platform and a 4-door version.

[Citroënbender]

It amazes me there is to date, no Mustang pram. Surely that's money for jam?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

But it's also often how companies sometimes initially test likely market responses; put the rumour out there to see what the market thinks.

Nice theory.

[jpd80]

Rumors are swirling everywhere about the next-generation Ford Mustang. Word is that around 2026, the smaller Pony car we all know and love will die. Mustang rumors suggest that in its place will come a much larger car on the CD6 platform that underpins the 2020 Ford Explorer and 2020 Lincoln Aviator.

I'm pretty sure that I know the guy that started this rumor, well he didn't start it but
kept waffling on about S650 and then that being delayed and CD6 this and that ....."

Originally Posted by aussiblue
But it's also often how companies sometimes initially test likely market responses; put the rumour out there to see what the market thinks.

This is not Ford, this is the internet reverberating and circular source confirmation,
people repeating the rumor on the internet are then cited as confirming it. LOL

What we're seeing here is a house of cards built around the info that the next Camaro
is to be built on yet again another one of GM's new flexible architectures and as such,
will grow in size to follow the Challenger and become more popular with buyers...

Now, that buzz was then transferred to what Ford may do with a future Mustang but what
was completely missed by most is that Ford is about to make the mustang more modular,
not bigger thanks to the addition of CD6 engineering modules for hybridizing, the packaging
under the skin will change to make things easier for Ford...or is that cheaper...er, less costly.

[aussiblue]

Nice theory.

It happens see page 664 Section 4.4 Provoking - Trial balloon etc at https://www.slideshare.net/IanMcCart...y-leak-secrets

[aussiblue]

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/liisa-...b_8743858.html

"They can get customers excited about upcoming product offerings, such as the new Star Wars movie. In other cases, they may keep consumers from buying competing products in anticipation of leaked release dates or feature sets."

And Ford has done it often e.g. https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/202...gt500-revealed

The Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 has been revealed, but this time via the official channels.

And what its reveal confirms is that most of the information divulged by forums and leaked documents stacks up to be true.

[Citroënbender]

I am certain Apple do this, too.

[aussiblue]

Yes; Apple are infamous for doing it.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

It happens see page 664 Section 4.4 Provoking - Trial balloon etc at https://www.slideshare.net/IanMcCart...y-leak-secrets

Not in this case.

[b0son]

Will the new platform be called Clydesdale?

[Citroënbender]

No, Destrier.

[outback_ute]

Agreed with comments about false conclusions being drawn. After all the VW MQB architecture is used for everything from the Polo to the large Atlas SUV!

[Poetic Justice]

Well I know that I'd have a Dodge Challenger... so there's that..

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by SCUD

Well I know that I'd have a Dodge Challenger... so there's that..

No way, the Mustang is a much better car to drive.